gurujuan Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, wilyfox said: Indeed. An overhaul was already a difficult task given financial constraints, but there's no denying recruitment just got even harder following the verdict. The timing has screwed us, in that regard. Well you know my thoughts on how difficult this sort of rebuild would be. It’s possible that we can still add energy, and quality to the group, by bringing in young Premier League loan players. As long as we can satisfy those Premier League clubs, that their youngsters will be getting game time, and playing the right brand of football, the points deduction won’t be a deterrent We still retain a fair bit of experience, but we will need to find a leader though. Also, it would be wishful thinking that we could rely on a group of young inexperienced strikers, so we might need to an older head for that department Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDragonOwl Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: This I’d take League One all day if it meant we started on a level playing field and rebuilt. A lot of the players we have already are League One standard so I think we’d be able to compete. If there were to be litigation brought by clubs against the EFL, and we were to be relegated this season (2019-2020), it could take months for a result. This means we would not be able to build a squad for league one, and more than likely get relegated to league 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, CF_Owl said: I’m not so sure you know. Everyone is banging on about getting young, hungry players from the lower leagues...well they’d surely want the chance to play in the championship than remain in league one or below. They’d get paid more and still a chance to remain in the championship. If we fail they end up back in league one where they would have been anyway. Yes we will struggle to attract the top championship players but we would have struggled to convince them to come here before the points deduction. Loan players won’t lose out, they won’t get relegated, still play championship football. I honestly think recruitment won’t be as bad as we might initially thought. We’re just a bit lower in the pecking order now (we weren’t that high anyway!). I’m still bitter though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: This I’d take League One all day if it meant we started on a level playing field and rebuilt. A lot of the players we have already are League One standard so I think we’d be able to compete. We could rebuild in either league if we recruit properly. You just know it’s not going to happen though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 minute ago, gurujuan said: Well you know my thoughts on how difficult this sort of rebuild would be. It’s possible that we can still add energy, and quality to the group, by bringing in young Premier League loan players. As long as we can satisfy those Premier League clubs, that their youngsters will be getting game time, and playing the right brand of football, the points deduction won’t be a deterrent We still retain a fair bit of experience, but we will need to find a leader though. Also, it would be wishful thinking that we could rely on a group of young inexperienced strikers, so we might need to an older head for that department You say that, but Chelsea pulled Gallagher from a relegation battle at Charlton and placed him at Swansea for a promotion push. So, whichever end of the table we're battling may well affect the destination of such loanees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, wilyfox said: You say that, but Chelsea pulled Gallagher from a relegation battle at Charlton and placed him at Swansea for a promotion push. So, whichever end of the table we're battling may well affect the destination of such loanees. True, but I think a more important factor will be the style that we play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 RELAX people, we are in a better position than most Clubs, we have a brilliant leader in Mr Chansiri who is doing a great job, we've got rid of a lot of home boys not fit for the job, we have a Manager who has managed in the Premier League, we are rebuilding a more combative team, we have money to spend, (just bought a Premier league player) everything is rosy in our garden, whats not to like. WAWAW UTO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, gurujuan said: True, but I think a more important factor will be the style that we play Playing time and being part of a good team. That’s what prem clubs want for their loanees to experience. It just got harder to assemble a good team. Naive to believe it hasn’t. Many will turn their noses up at joining a likely relegation battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 minute ago, wilyfox said: Playing time and being part of a good team. That’s what prem clubs want for their loanees to experience. It just got harder to assemble a good team. Naive to believe it hasn’t. Many will turn their noses up at joining a likely relegation battle. Yes I think it’s a factor, but what gives me heart, is that Wigan were able to secure the services of James and Robinson, despite probably being one of the promotion favourites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Just now, gurujuan said: Yes I think it’s a factor, but what gives me heart, is that Wigan were able to secure the services of James and Robinson, despite probably being one of the promotion favourites But they weren’t starting on -12. Also, breaching ffp usually results in a transfer embargo. Are we now under one again? However you slice it, this verdict - and the timing of it - has damaged our rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Just now, wilyfox said: But they weren’t starting on -12. Also, breaching ffp usually results in a transfer embargo. Are we now under one again? However you slice it, this verdict - and the timing of it - has damaged our rebuild. I was wondering that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 56 minutes ago, wilyfox said: But they weren’t starting on -12. Also, breaching ffp usually results in a transfer embargo. Are we now under one again? However you slice it, this verdict - and the timing of it - has damaged our rebuild. exactly this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Troy Parrott signs for Millwall. Wouldn’t have minded him here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheriwozgod Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) Troy Parrott signs for Millwall. Wouldn’t have minded him here. On top of securing Ryan Woods for another season , good business by Rowett..........ah well. Edited August 1, 2020 by sheriwozgod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) Wouldn’t surprise me now if we’re also working within the limits of an embargo Not that either the club or the EFL will see fit to inform the fans about it For me, I think we’re going into next season with the U23’s making up the majority of the squad Edited August 1, 2020 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, Royal_D said: Wouldn’t surprise me now if we’re also working within the limits of an embargo Not that either the club or the EFL will see fit to inform the fans about it For me, I think we’re going into next season with the U23’s making up the majority of the squad We have no strikers in the 23s. Cleared them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philb125 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Royal_D said: Wouldn’t surprise me now if we’re also working within the limits of an embargo Not that either the club or the EFL will see fit to inform the fans about it For me, I think we’re going into next season with the U23’s making up the majority of the squad Any names from the U23 that you think be making up the majority of the squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S W F C Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Interested in signing “Keke” Simmonds apparently - From Man City. Close mates with FDB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s6 owl Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, Royal_D said: Wouldn’t surprise me now if we’re also working within the limits of an embargo Not that either the club or the EFL will see fit to inform the fans about it For me, I think we’re going into next season with the U23’s making up the majority of the squad Can't see that happening we might as well throw in the towell now if that is going to be the case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, Philb125 said: Any names from the U23 that you think be making up the majority of the squad? No none 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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