Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread 2020-2021

[pazowl55]

5 minutes ago, steelcityowlsfan said:

Wolves now confirmed Nelson Semedo signing so maybe Dion Sanderson can go out on loan?

 

We have been linked before. 

Palmer, Harris, Odubajo dont need him do we.?

[Owls-Fan]

From what I’ve seen Sanderson is a centre back or right back, not a wing back 

[The Night-Owl]

2 minutes ago, WalthamOwl said:

yes we simply have to bring in at least 1 if not 2 strikers. Rhodes, Windass and Kachunga imo won’t be enough over the course of a season. We need something different to them, a target man than can hold up the ball and bring those players in to the game. 

 

Windass and Kachunga have surprised me to be honest, with how sharp they look and like Brown they look smart signings. I'd still say, like you that we need at least another one or two attackers. A target man/hold it up foil type or someone more of a clever runner. Still hopeful that we can get another wing back in too, someone like Sanderson or Murphy, and I don't know if we were also looking at bringing in a deep playmaker midfielder or another centre back too? But attack still seems the area we need to address most. 

[pazowl55]

4 minutes ago, Owls-Fan said:

From what I’ve seen Sanderson is a centre back or right back, not a wing back 

Still dont need him.  

[Jim]

I really don’t know how we’re going to play it over the next month? I don’t believe we’ll totally shoot our load in this window for the want of a better expression?

 

We need to be in a position where we can freshen things up if needs be in January which is literally just over two months away once these two respective windows shut.

 

The way Monk is involving the youngsters and in turn subsequently forging team spirit suggests this group of players is what we are largely going to use at least until January.

 

As I’ve said before I believe 4 or 5 of the senior pros are probably in their last season here for a variety of reasons and Monk’s ability to get a tune out of these is going to be crucial this season. Lees has made a good start and Bannan’s Bannan. I think getting more out of Rhodes and Reach is going to be more of a challenge?

 

It’ll be interesting to see where we are at Christmas but as the season goes on I suspect we’ll be looking at Hunt, Shaw, FDB, etc. as players for the present as much as the future?

[The Night-Owl]

2 minutes ago, pazowl55 said:

Palmer, Harris, Odubajo dont need him do we.?

 

Versatile. Palmer, Penney and Harris have looked good so far but we still need depth and balance. We also had Murphy last season, who looked our best player once he got going. Sanderson would give us more balance and options, plus he could also play in the back three too. He'd be another smart signing if we can bring him in. 

[pazowl55]

2 minutes ago, The Night-Owl said:

 

Versatile. Palmer, Penney and Harris have looked good so far but we still need depth and balance. We also had Murphy last season, who looked our best player once he got going. Sanderson would give us more balance and options, plus he could also play in the back three too. He'd be another smart signing if we can bring him in. 

Would he be first choice, I doubt it.

Dont forget we have Dunkley who hasn't kicked a ball yet to come in. Would rather we went with a youngster as cover if needs be and used that money to get in a top striker.

[gurujuan]

7 minutes ago, Jim said:

I really don’t know how we’re going to play it over the next month? I don’t believe we’ll totally shoot our load in this window for the want of a better expression?

 

We need to be in a position where we can freshen things up if needs be in January which is literally just over two months away once these two respective windows shut.

 

The way Monk is involving the youngsters and in turn subsequently forging team spirit suggests this group of players is what we are largely going to use at least until January.

 

As I’ve said before I believe 4 or 5 of the senior pros are probably in their last season here for a variety of reasons and Monk’s ability to get a tune out of these is going to be crucial this season. Lees has made a good start and Bannan’s Bannan. I think getting more out of Rhodes and Reach is going to be more of a challenge?

 

It’ll be interesting to see where we are at Christmas but as the season goes on I suspect we’ll be looking at Hunt, Shaw, FDB, etc. as players for the present as much as the future?

Be a risky strategy to not bring the squad up to scratch in this window, leave January for fine tuning

[The Night-Owl]

9 minutes ago, pazowl55 said:

Would he be first choice, I doubt it.

Dont forget we have Dunkley who hasn't kicked a ball yet to come in. Would rather we went with a youngster as cover if needs be and used that money to get in a top striker.

 

Aye, attacking areas should be the main priority. That said, an improved balance of the team, has made us look more effective defensively and going forward as a team, so far. Sanderson would strengthen our options. He seems versatile across the defence, he looked capable of playing full back or wing back on loan at Cardiff last season, where he caught the eye. I think he'd give us better competition for places and more options, which is something to consider with the congested season. 

Edited September 23, 2020 by The Night-Owl

[Jim]

8 minutes ago, gurujuan said:

Be a risky strategy to not bring the squad up to scratch in this window, leave January for fine tuning

 

Of course it would be but have you seen anything to suggest with any confidence that we are going to attack the rest of this window in a way that we probably need to?

[Dutch McLovin]

6 minutes ago, The Night-Owl said:

 

Aye, attacking areas should be the main priority. That said, an improved balance of the team, has made us look more effective defensively and going forward as a team, so far. Sanderson would strengthen our options. He seems versatile across the defence, he looked capable of playing full back or wing back on loan at Cardiff last season, where he caught the eye. I think he'd give us better competition for places and more options, which is something to consider with the congested season. 

I see your point but i dont think we should sign him.... if he was a left back or left wing back i could see it but we have plenty of cover in his position.

[gurujuan]

Just now, Jim said:

 

Of course it would be but have you seen anything to suggest with any confidence that we are going to attack the rest of this window in a way that we probably need to?

No, I haven’t, we haven’t even managed to sort out recruitment at U23 level, where it’s free agents we are talking about. However, we have to do it, the consequences of not doing it could be disastrous

[Jim]

5 minutes ago, gurujuan said:

No, I haven’t, we haven’t even managed to sort out recruitment at U23 level, where it’s free agents we are talking about. However, we have to do it, the consequences of not doing it could be disastrous

 

You’ve mentioned the under-23s. I mean Bonnington has started all four fixtures so far played at Under- 23 and Under-18 level. We could ruin that lad before his careers begun if we’re not careful? I did say before the season kicked off that the under-18 lads would probably end up playing more under-23 football than usual even more so in the forward positions due to lack of numbers?

 

Before the end of October I wouldn’t rule out Adodoyin and Hagan being firmly in the first team forward picture as it’s very doubtful how effective Rhodes and Reach will be?

[room0035]

2 hours ago, Nut said:

It's common for clubs to pay for a player in instalments over the length of their contract so if Cash signed a 4 year contract, Forest will probably receive £4m a year over 4 years. This is not set in stone as Mcguigan pointed out earlier. Sometimes a club will accept a lower amount for a player in order to receive most or all of the money upfront. If the player is then sold during the term of his contract, the outstanding balance becomes payable straight away which is why you will have seen posters on here  arguing that there was no point letting Rhodes leave on a free as it would trigger a payment to Middlesbrough which would have made our financial situation worse. It's also one of the reasons why clubs get into financial difficulties when they get relegated and their revenue drops. If clubs had to pay all transfer fees upfront it would be a big help in sorting out the financial mess a lot of clubs are in. 

Its not for Premier leagues there can be installment but there is not a chance that Forest would sell a play the allow, Villa to pay them over 4 years.

 

I think you might be getting the payment of a player and the accounting treatment of a player mixed up.

 

We don't owe Boro any money for Rhodes we probably paid for him with the first few months of him joining us, as Steve Gibson would not have kept quite if we still owed then but equally we have account for that fee over the length of Rhodes Contract so the hit for P&S is only £2m a season instead of £8m back in 16/17 season.

[room0035]

17 minutes ago, Jim said:

 

You’ve mentioned the under-23s. I mean Bonnington has started all four fixtures so far played at Under- 23 and Under-18 level. We could ruin that lad before his careers begun if we’re not careful? I did say before the season kicked off that the under-18 lads would probably end up playing more under-23 football than usual even more so in the forward positions due to lack of numbers?

 

Before the end of October I wouldn’t rule out Adodoyin and Hagan being firmly in the first team forward picture as it’s very doubtful how effective Rhodes and Reach will be?

Stop playing Reach up front and play him on the left of midfield, would be a bloody good start, he offers more goals, assist and his general play is far superior than Harris when he is allowed to consistently play not being dropped every other game, he won't cut in field to cross because he is not right footed ala Harris and the strikers may even get more than 1 cross a game to try and score goals.

 

What's the point of playing wingers if the don't get to the by line and cross the ball in the box. Wingers are there to provide service to the strikers and when the winger the other side is crossing it, they either get on he far post or recycle the lose ball.

 

If Reach is not being sold then play him in his correct position, or its just a waste of a salary to keep him at the club.

[Jim]

15 minutes ago, room0035 said:

Stop playing Reach up front and play him on the left of midfield, would be a bloody good start, he offers more goals, assist and his general play is far superior than Harris when he is allowed to consistently play not being dropped every other game, he won't cut in field to cross because he is not right footed ala Harris and the strikers may even get more than 1 cross a game to try and score goals.

 

What's the point of playing wingers if the don't get to the by line and cross the ball in the box. Wingers are there to provide service to the strikers and when the winger the other side is crossing it, they either get on he far post or recycle the lose ball.

 

If Reach is not being sold then play him in his correct position, or its just a waste of a salary to keep him at the club.

 

It’s just a waste having Reach anyway as I don’t believe Monk particularly rates him in any position?

 

You talk about selling him. Who’s going to come in now during the current financial climate and pay the fee DC would want? He’ll be another player we’ll lose for nothing.

[oldishowl]

27 minutes ago, room0035 said:

Stop playing Reach up front and play him on the left of midfield, would be a bloody good start, he offers more goals, assist and his general play is far superior than Harris when he is allowed to consistently play not being dropped every other game, he won't cut in field to cross because he is not right footed ala Harris and the strikers may even get more than 1 cross a game to try and score goals.

 

What's the point of playing wingers if the don't get to the by line and cross the ball in the box. Wingers are there to provide service to the strikers and when the winger the other side is crossing it, they either get on he far post or recycle the lose ball.

 

If Reach is not being sold then play him in his correct position, or its just a waste of a salary to keep him at the club.

We don’t play with wingers.

 

[room0035]

9 minutes ago, oldishowl said:

We don’t play with wingers.

 

so we don't play a 3-5-2 then I must be watching a different team 

[gurujuan]

1 hour ago, Jim said:

 

You’ve mentioned the under-23s. I mean Bonnington has started all four fixtures so far played at Under- 23 and Under-18 level. We could ruin that lad before his careers begun if we’re not careful? I did say before the season kicked off that the under-18 lads would probably end up playing more under-23 football than usual even more so in the forward positions due to lack of numbers?

 

Before the end of October I wouldn’t rule out Adodoyin and Hagan being firmly in the first team forward picture as it’s very doubtful how effective Rhodes and Reach will be?

I haven’t yet seen anything of either of them really, but at this point, it’s doubtful whether they are ready for regular first team football at this level There might be reasons why clubs might be holding on to our targets, but at U23 level, that can’t be the case At least that’s is one area we could be up to speed with

[jp1981]

1 hour ago, pazowl55 said:

Would he be first choice, I doubt it.

Dont forget we have Dunkley who hasn't kicked a ball yet to come in. Would rather we went with a youngster as cover if needs be and used that money to get in a top striker.

Would prefer getting Vanancio back if possible and loan the youngsters out to gain more experience.

 

I would also like another specialist LWB before the window closes.