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4 minutes ago, Quist said:

Yes I agree about U/23 side that was true last year. Palmer would be suitableagainst some sides but against sides who have towering forwards he is not the answer. My point is we look short if you do some analysis. 

I would argue any resources we do have would be far better spent on a forward rather than reinforcing an area of the pitch where we have

Iorfa, Lees, Dunkley, van Aken, Borner

and if push comes to shove Palmer, Shaw and Urhoghide.

That's 8 names for 3 positions. 

 

We're poor. We can't afford to have 6 Championship-level CBs for 3 positions. We arguably have 5 for those 3, with at least one pretty competent backup CB in Palmer (out of position admittedly)... we'll be far better spending our money elsewhere.

 

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44 minutes ago, Themagiccap said:

Our lack of recruitment in our U23s is embarrassing, we should regularly be signing 7/8/9 released premier league academy players on the proviso that they have a second chance and can push to our 1st team if they do well. Players like Alex Denny, Dion McGhee, Justen Kranthove all had good reputations but are still on frees.

 

WTF!

 

We've signed loads for the U23's though, wouldn't call the recruitment "embarrassing" by any stretch!

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15 minutes ago, The_Limit_Owl said:

 

WTF!

 

We've signed loads for the U23's though, wouldn't call the recruitment "embarrassing" by any stretch!

 

Look at the link from the website https://www.swfc.co.uk/teams/u23-team/

 

only 16 players and of them Render, Brennan, Waldock, Grant and Hagan have all been involved in the first team. 16 players isn't enough for a match day squad. 

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7 minutes ago, Themagiccap said:

 

Look at the link from the website https://www.swfc.co.uk/teams/u23-team/

 

only 16 players and of them Render, Brennan, Waldock, Grant and Hagan have all been involved in the first team. 16 players isn't enough for a match day squad. 

 

The players mentioned are part of the U23's squad though??  They just happened to have been given a chance to experience match days with the the first team, which is all part of the development process?    

 

I don't find that embarrassing at all.

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16 players when the match day squad is 11 starters plus subs.

it's far far too low, only 2 strikers?

we need our U23s to be competitive to a high standard to prepare them for the first team. So far they have lost to an in administration Wigan

 

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1 hour ago, Quist said:

Well it was said you need 5 when you play two centre halves as they are more prone to injury and suspension in that position. We have said two people fighting for every position so we are one defender down by that yard stick.Van Aken has surprised with some good play including defending so far but Borher not been at best to date. Lees, Dunkley both injury prone looking at appearance record. Van Aken also had lengthy absence due to injury and think he also picked up knocks last season.

Dunkley we have not seen so far. We were looking for another centre back so coaches must have some concern. Yes pleased so far but unconvinced we do not need another bod.

Mckenna who is linked with Forest is very good player by the way.We had bid for him last year of £3 million which was turned down.

 

Yeah I think we have enough cover . Palmer can play there urhoghide can play there . I'm not sure 

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1 hour ago, StudentOwl said:

I would argue any resources we do have would be far better spent on a forward rather than reinforcing an area of the pitch where we have

Iorfa, Lees, Dunkley, van Aken, Borner

and if push comes to shove Palmer, Shaw and Urhoghide.

That's 8 names for 3 positions. 

 

We're poor. We can't afford to have 6 Championship-level CBs for 3 positions. We arguably have 5 for those 3, with at least one pretty competent backup CB in Palmer (out of position admittedly)... we'll be far better spending our money elsewhere.

 

That is assuming we can only bring one person into club. I think we will make a few more signings.

I agree a forward is a priority but do not think we are as well off defensively as some on here may think. Dunkley will not be available until November and Lees and Van Aken are also injury prone. The reason we are keeping clean sheeets is some excellent work in midfield particularly by Loungo who has been playing particularly well.

Other issue is what forwards are available? We would be daft spending all money on Zohore. Had a look at what was available and their does not appear to be much at moment. Gyokeres at Brighton looks a good option as any but is they remain in EFL cup think he will stay with them. Grant at Huddersfield is sittingon backside and training with kids. He will be leaving currently no takers at want Huddersfield want and only WBA shown any real interest. They need money from Zohore transfer. Other than that most options are playing first team football. Derby have just gone for 19yro kid who left Liverpool for Italy. Think it shows very difficult.

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9 minutes ago, Quist said:

That is assuming we can only bring one person into club. I think we will make a few more signings.

I agree a forward is a priority but do not think we are as well off defensively as some on here may think. Dunkley will not be available until November and Lees and Van Aken are also injury prone. The reason we are keeping clean sheeets is some excellent work in midfield particularly by Loungo who has been playing particularly well.

Other issue is what forwards are available? We would be daft spending all money on Zohore. Had a look at what was available and their does not appear to be much at moment. Gyokeres at Brighton looks a good option as any but is they remain in EFL cup think he will stay with them. Grant at Huddersfield is sittingon backside and training with kids. He will be leaving currently no takers at want Huddersfield want and only WBA shown any real interest. They need money from Zohore transfer. Other than that most options are playing first team football. Derby have just gone for 19yro kid who left Liverpool for Italy. Think it shows very difficult.


Not a prayer of getting Grant from Huddersfield. Will cost too much

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Huddersfield Town have agreed a fee with Portuguese giants Benfica for midfielder Chris Willock according to the Daily Mail. 

It is also claimed that Rangers, Derby, QPR and Bournemouth are keeping tabs on the development involving Huddersfield’s attempt to get this deal over the line.

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Just now, sheffwed1 said:


Not a prayer of getting Grant from Huddersfield. Will cost too much

I do not think we could buy him,.They had offer for £15 million but was then withdrawn. I think that is what they roughly value him at. However they are paying wages and his manager has not been complimentary about him and wants him out. Apparently no one in at moment for him, thought if we made loan offer, it is unlikely to work but worth a go. At some point Huddersfield have to make a decision on what to do with him if get wages paid and he plays well value may increase. Or they could do what we do and just let them rot inreserves and lose more money.

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36 minutes ago, sheffwed1 said:


Not a prayer of getting Grant from Huddersfield. Will cost too much

Nether do I, but shows the value in investing in youth and actually playing them. Bought for £1.5m, now talking of value around £15m.

 

I think were coming round to this strategy slowly, we now have a coherent recruitment structure and well placed to make strategic investments in potential, rather than looking at PL cast offs. 

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Coventry City are interested in Dundee United striker Lawrence Shankland, as per a report by the Courier. 

The Sky Blues sent scouts to watch the Scotland international in action against St Mirren at the weekend, a game in which he scored in.

Shankland, who is 25 years old, has been prolific over the past few seasons and it is no surprise to see Coventry keeping tabs on his progress.

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2 hours ago, Mcguigan said:

Bet Leeds are laughing at the £11m they had Spurs pants down for.

 

this is the model we need to aim for

 

Young player does well for a few months and then auction them off, and repeat...


Worked well for Leeds, United, Fulham etc etc

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7 minutes ago, Bloxwich Owl said:

Coventry City are interested in Dundee United striker Lawrence Shankland, as per a report by the Courier. 

The Sky Blues sent scouts to watch the Scotland international in action against St Mirren at the weekend, a game in which he scored in.

Shankland, who is 25 years old, has been prolific over the past few seasons and it is no surprise to see Coventry keeping tabs on his progress.

Could be a shrewd move, scored 20+ goals in each of the last 3 seasons. 

 

On the other hand, why have a Celtic not bought him, as they tend to do with the best talent in Scotland? Also, as one still scarred by the memory of Stevie May who had similarly impressive stats, maybe not that easy to step up to Championship level. 

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Don’t want to come across as reactionary to today’s new COVID news but do we think we will be spending anymore after pretty much confirmed no fans in this season? Would it be wise to spend more? I certainly wouldn’t be comfortable with taking on Zohores 30k a week wages when the future of all clubs (mostly outside the Premier) will be so uncertain.
I understand the world of football keeps spinning especially at the top but at which point does Chansiri turn off the tap to ensure we aren’t one of the ones that go under permanently?

I’m not necessarily panicking,I personally think Wednesday would be just about ok, just musing on other peoples thoughts?

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2 minutes ago, swfc1983 said:

Don’t want to come across as reactionary to today’s new COVID news but do we think we will be spending anymore after pretty much confirmed no fans in this season? Would it be wise to spend more? I certainly wouldn’t be comfortable with taking on Zohores 30k a week wages when the future of all clubs (mostly outside the Premier) will be so uncertain.
I understand the world of football keeps spinning especially at the top but at which point does Chansiri turn off the tap to ensure we aren’t one of the ones that go under permanently?

I’m not necessarily panicking,I personally think Wednesday would be just about ok, just musing on other peoples thoughts?

 

I was thinking the same TBH. Monk has mentioned on more than one occasion that we have cut our cloth accordingly and I suspect this approach will have to continue during the current pandemic?

 

I suppose with relegation to League 1 a strong possibility then we have no choice. Hopefully the players we have now are capable of keeping us afloat. It’s certainly an opportunity for the youngsters to make a name for themselves.

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1 hour ago, swfc1983 said:

Don’t want to come across as reactionary to today’s new COVID news but do we think we will be spending anymore after pretty much confirmed no fans in this season? Would it be wise to spend more? I certainly wouldn’t be comfortable with taking on Zohores 30k a week wages when the future of all clubs (mostly outside the Premier) will be so uncertain.
I understand the world of football keeps spinning especially at the top but at which point does Chansiri turn off the tap to ensure we aren’t one of the ones that go under permanently?

I’m not necessarily panicking,I personally think Wednesday would be just about ok, just musing on other peoples thoughts?

Yes will impact finances.Think Zohore situation is a joke. WBA run a tight ship and think they have made a rick with Zohore. On long contract and did not work at Championship level for them. Have to get rid of him if say failure will be stuck so talk him up and hope somebody daft enough to fall for it.

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