gurujuan Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, wilyfox said: I'm not so pessimistic about it. Big opportunity for Monk & recruiters. Need to get it right for sake of their own careers, so don't think they'd wanna pîss it up the wall. So many out of contract could work in our favour in new financial climate. Other clubs may be stuck with more high earners they can't shift. I just feel there’s too much to be done, and there’s little or no evidence that suggests we will be able to do it, certainly not on a reduced budget. Personally I’m torn, because I know it needs doing, but I don’t have the confidence in those charged to do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 1 minute ago, gurujuan said: I just feel there’s too much to be done, and there’s little or no evidence that suggests we will be able to do it, certainly not on a reduced budget. Personally I’m torn, because I know it needs doing, but I don’t have the confidence in those charged to do it. Managed to assemble a top 6 side in summer of 2015 despite our recruitment committee clusterfuck. If Paixao can do it, don't see why pro recruiters Downes & Hughes can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, nbupperthongowl said: Got to agree, the world will have changed regarding salaries, it should be a buyer's market, especially for the out of contract players I’m sure it will, and not before time. The fees and wages will come down, as will the amount we will have to spend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 To be fair to Garry Monk, his recruiting at Leeds was excellent. Rob Green, Luke Ayling, Kyle Bartley, Pontus Jansson, Ronaldo Vieira, Pablo Hernandez and Kemar Roofe all signings he made. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 1 minute ago, wilyfox said: Managed to assemble a top 6 side in summer of 2015 despite our recruitment committee clusterfuck. If Paixao can do it, don't see why pro recruiters Downes & Hughes can't. We did spend a fair amount on assembling that squad though, and Carlos was a far better tactician than Monk is. I’m not saying it can’t be done, our recent dealings on a budget, don’t inspire confidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, 0114 said: To be fair to Garry Monk, his recruiting at Leeds was excellent. Rob Green, Luke Ayling, Kyle Bartley, Pontus Jansson, Ronaldo Vieira, Pablo Hernandez and Kemar Roofe all signings he made. Yes that’s true, some of those were very good signings. On paper, some of the signings he made at Boro looked good as well Both lots of recruitment meant spending a significant amount of money though, and I just feel trying to undertake that sort of rebuild with no real budget will be extremely difficult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, gurujuan said: We did spend a fair amount on assembling that squad though, and Carlos was a far better tactician than Monk is. I’m not saying it can’t be done, our recent dealings on a budget, don’t inspire confidence Iorfa, Luongo, Börner, and Harris have all been very useful for modest outlay. It can be done. Takes an artist to recruit the right mix. We'll learn about our recruiters, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Wasn’t there a lot of interest in Lyle Taylor at one point ? could also see us been in for Jack Clarke on loan and the lad Holland who’s at Oxford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, gurujuan said: Yes that’s true, some of those were very good signings. On paper, some of the signings he made at Boro looked good as well Both lots of recruitment meant spending a significant amount of money though, and I just feel trying to undertake that sort of rebuild with no real budget will be extremely difficult Yes there was definitely more money available than what I assume we will have, although I do think he used the loan market well at Leeds. My main concern with recruitment is that it’s not actually the manager who is allowed to crack on with it. Seems like too many people in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 1 hour ago, 0114 said: Yes there was definitely more money available than what I assume we will have, although I do think he used the loan market well at Leeds. My main concern with recruitment is that it’s not actually the manager who is allowed to crack on with it. Seems like too many people in the process. Chinks of light, are the players we have already been linked with, so I’m not entirely without hope. The lad Holland would be a good signing, if we could pull it off, as would James Garner. Also, despite his earlier spell with us, I hope there might be something in the link with Lewis Baker. He had him at Boro, and tried again for him while at Leeds. Similarly he signed Ashley Fletcher at Boro, and then tried to take him to Leeds. We haven’t been linked with Ashley Fletcher, but I wonder if Monk might be interested, if our own Fletcher moves on All those are talented young players, who if we could bring them here, would be the type of players who could take us forward 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 2 hours ago, 0114 said: To be fair to Garry Monk, his recruiting at Leeds was excellent. Rob Green, Luke Ayling, Kyle Bartley, Pontus Jansson, Ronaldo Vieira, Pablo Hernandez and Kemar Roofe all signings he made. Good post, with Chansiri and Monk staying on a while longer I think we just have to hope that whatever craziness has gone on between Christmas and March it can be resolved and that Monk can turn the ship around. One of the key abilities a manager needs is to be good in the transfer market. And to have a decent coaching team. Let’s hope Monk can get that and he can find success with us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malek Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 40 minutes ago, gurujuan said: Chinks of light, are the players we have already been linked with, so I’m not entirely without hope. The lad Holland would be a good signing, if we could pull it off, as would James Garner. Also, despite his earlier spell with us, I hope there might be something in the link with Lewis Baker. He had him at Boro, and tried again for him while at Leeds. Similarly he signed Ashley Fletcher at Boro, and then tried to take him to Leeds. We haven’t been linked with Ashley Fletcher, but I wonder if Monk might be interested, if our own Fletcher moves on All those are talented young players, who if we could bring them here, would be the type of players who could take us forward Would love to see us bringing Holland in. Garner is highly thought of at Manchester United. It will be interesting to see if we can bring him in. I'm not a huge fan of Baker, although he is a talented player. Personally I would prefer us to try and sign Southampton's 21 years old playmaker Callum Slattery. who would be long term solution for our midfield problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 20 minutes ago, malek said: Would love to see us bringing Holland in. Garner is highly thought of at Manchester United. It will be interesting to see if we can bring him in. I'm not a huge fan of Baker, although he is a talented player. Personally I would prefer us to try and sign Southampton's 21 years old playmaker Callum Slattery. who would be long term solution for our midfield problems. Yes, read good things about him All of those players have a level of skill that I think we need, and are of the right age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LittleG Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Royal_D said: Loads of interest in Fox dont see him staying More likely his agent is hawking his name around rather than genuine interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 26 minutes ago, LittleG said: More likely his agent is hawking his name around rather than genuine interest Or the interest he has had is from clubs he doesn't want to go to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malek Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 33 minutes ago, gurujuan said: Yes, read good things about him All of those players have a level of skill that I think we need, and are of the right age For me it is key to start rebuilding with young players on long term deals so we can add and build around them. And I believe that this is right time to go for such players as many youngsters on verge of first team squads will suddenly become redundant. Considering size of our club and personal wealth of our owner we, could be in position to bring in couple of the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, malek said: For me it is key to start rebuilding with young players on long term deals so we can add and build around them. And I believe that this is right time to go for such players as many youngsters on verge of first team squads will suddenly become redundant. Considering size of our club and personal wealth of our owner we, could be in position to bring in couple of the best. Yes if we’re allowed to spend We might need to cash in on one of our mainstays to finance the likes of Holland or Nathan Fletcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, malek said: For me it is key to start rebuilding with young players on long term deals so we can add and build around them. Long term deals for unproven players ....not sure that's good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LittleG Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 29 minutes ago, nbupperthongowl said: Or the interest he has had is from clubs he doesn't want to go to Lots of players get linked to lots of clubs at this time of the year; in the majority of cases there is nothing in it and it's usually agents plying their trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 1 hour ago, malek said: Would love to see us bringing Holland in. Garner is highly thought of at Manchester United. It will be interesting to see if we can bring him in. I'm not a huge fan of Baker, although he is a talented player. Personally I would prefer us to try and sign Southampton's 21 years old playmaker Callum Slattery. who would be long term solution for our midfield problems. Holland National side would be the perfect fit for Championship ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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