The chairman's record

[Dick_Turpin]

2 minutes ago, bladeshater said:

Best chairman we have had in my 50 odd years of watching us I hope he sees it through

Whatever "it" is.

 

[pat blondeau]

1 minute ago, Royal_D said:

Probably because John West Tuna has nowt to do with him directly ,  TUF made it quite clear they didn’t want nowt to do with it 

 

Is your issue with in house sponsorship or just Chansiri’s name ? 

Fair enough, I don’t have a massive issue with it. Just find it a bit strange having his name across the north stand and on the kit. How many other owners do that?

[Dick_Turpin]

3 minutes ago, Royal_D said:

Probably because John West Tuna has nowt to do with him directly ,  TUF made it quite clear they didn’t want nowt to do with it 

 

Is your issue with in house sponsorship or just Chansiri’s name ? 

It smacks of tin pot. What is he publicising other than himself and a couple of companies that don't actually trade. 

[full fathom five]

18 hours ago, KivoOwl said:

Things started off well enough. His first involvement was the signing of three players during the January 2015 transfer window. In the summer, he re-signed Lewis McGugan, at the time a huge statement of intent as the player had been a revelation during his loan spell.

 

In May 2015, after acknowledging that he didn’t know enough about football, he announced his intentions to have a five-man management set-up consisting of a three-man ‘Sporting Director Committee’ (Adam Pearson, Glenn Roeder and Paul Senior), a Director of Football and a Head Coach. After Mark Cooper rejected the chance to take the latter job, the relatively unknown Carlos Carvalhal was appointed instead, with the Director of Football role laying vacant. Two weeks after joining, Pearson left for Leeds United, and Roeder left in December. None of the vacated roles were filled, leaving Carvalhal in sole charge of first team affairs.

 

Chansiri turned to agent Amadeu Paixao for transfer recruitment advice, with a raft of unknowns such as Modou Sougou, Lucas Joao, Marco Matias and Darrly Lachman joining Ross Wallace, Fernando Forestieri and Barry Bannan through the door.

 

The first major backlash from fans came after the announcement of ticket prices for the 2015/16 season - £39 to sit on the Kop for the game against Bristol City, and season ticket prices up across the board – the cheapest adult ticket going from £360 to £395. Chansiri was forced to explain his reasoning behind such a steep rise in prices, saying that levels of income had to be raised across the board to help pay for a promotion push. Initial scepticism gave way to acceptance when the team on the field started doing the business and looked set for top end finish.

 

In January 2016 Chansiri decided to ditch the ‘70s Owl’ logo and designed a modern version of the older club emblem. Again, any murmurs of discontent were pushed to one side as the team surged up the league table – who cares what the badge looks like when the product on the pitch is better? Eventually, the team lost in the play-off final at Wembley. The same month, losses of £11m were announced in the club accounts.

 

On top of the increase in POTG prices (the average price of the cheapest POTG ticket for the 2015/16 season was £31.11, up from £23.57 a year earlier), season ticket prices for the 2016/17 season went up again – the cheapest adult ticket going from £395 to £415.

 

The summer of 2016 saw the arrival of Daniel Pudil, Steven Fletcher and Almen Abdi – all three popular signings, but the latter two struggled to get going. Fletcher took nearly three years to hit decent form, while Abdi proved a waste of £4m. Also incoming were Vincent Sasso, Adam Reach and Urby Emanuelson. Transfer outlay for the season would near £20m, though previous favourite McGugan was mysteriously frozen out.

 

The next big talking point was the decision to ditch stripes from the club’s shirt for the first time in over 40 years. But the controversy soon died down. Who cares about what shirt a side is wearing when they’re doing well? The production of replica kits went to an unknown Australian firm, to help save the club and fans money. The shirts didn’t arrive until well after the start of the season, and then they were priced at £59.

 

A raft of bizarre occurrences at the start of the season included the chairman choosing the squad numbers (goalkeeper Joe Wildsmith famously given the number 2 shirt), golden elephants installed outside the South Stand to give us good luck, a two-minute silence held for the recently deceased King of Thailand and the ‘SWFC’ lettering in the North Stand seats replaced with ‘CHANSIRI’. All received some negativity, but the majority were again in support of the chairman as long as he continued to provide a good product on the pitch.

The free-flowing football of 15/16 disappeared and Wednesday toiled throughout the season, though they eventually finished in fourth place, before falling short in the play-off semi-finals against Huddersfield.

 

Ticket prices rose further in the summer of 2017. The cheapest adult ST was now £455, up another £40. The average price of the cheapest POTG ticket rose to £33.36. Membership prices also rose from £30 to £50. Jordan Rhodes was signed permanently for £10m after a pretty average loan spell. Also incoming were George Boyd, Joey Pelupessy and Joost van Aken – all three turned out to be terrible signings. Losses of £20m announced in the club accounts.

 

In July 2017 young starlet George Hirst was frozen out of all playing action over a contract dispute, to be joined by Sean Clare later in the season. Both left on free transfers. Kit production again hit problems – stripes returned (albeit pinstripes), but two companies created by the chairman – DTaxis and Elev8 were revealed as kit manufacturers and sponsors. They were again late in arriving. A new scheme, Club1867, was announced. £1,500 would get a supporter a bronze plaque on their seat and a ‘free’ 3-year-season ticket upon promotion to the Premier League.

 

In September 2017 the club celebrated its 150^th anniversary with a fireworks display and a world record attempt at producing a ball-shaped cake.

 

On the pitch, results dipped further, and Carlos Carvalhal was eventually shown the door. Another relative unknown – Jos Luhukay – was appointed manager. Around the same time, controversial ex-Charlton CEO Katrien Meire was installed in a similar position at Wednesday. She left after 12 months. Increased fan unrest at the downturn in form was challenged by Chansiri, who set up a poll asking fans whether they wanted the same ticket prices and levels of investment in the squad, or lower ticket prices and a turn towards introducing younger players into the squad. 70% voted for the former, favouring to continue paying higher ticket prices in return for continued investment in the transfer market.

 

In March 2018 further losses of £21m were announced in club accounts, but by the end of the season the side had managed to avoid relegation to League One.

 

In the summer of 2018, season ticket prices were frozen, but membership packages went from £50 to £90 – a decision that was reversed after supporter backlash. Replica kits were again not ready for sale until after the season had started. For the first time since pre-WWII, no players signed for the club during the summer, with youth players instead integrated into the side. Instead of ticket prices being lowered, the average price of the cheapest POTG ticket over the 2018/19 season rose further, to £33.17. One bright note in the summer of 2018 was the lifting of the club’s transfer embargo, though fans had never been informed that the club was in one to start with.

 

On the pitch, Wednesday looked set for a relegation dogfight after a poor start to the season which cost Luhukay his job. Steve Bruce took over the reigns eight weeks later and eventually the side again managed to stave off relegation.

 

In the summer of 2019, the club announced a profit of £2.5m in the club accounts, though this was helped by the sale of the club’s home of 120 years to the club chairman for £60m – an attempt to circumvent Profit & Sustainability rules. Eventually, the EFL caught wind of the ploy and brought charges against the club, with a large points deduction the likely penalty. Steve Bruce controversially left for Newcastle United after just four months in the Owls hotseat, but it wasn’t for another eight weeks that his successor was appointed, Garry Monk.

 

In January 2020 the club announced another new ticket scheme, selling 10-year season tickets in another hope to drum up much-needed income.

That doesn't read well on DCs part.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, rickygoo said:

It smacks of tin pot. What is he publicising other than himself and a couple of companies that don't actually trade. 

Nothing whatsoever I’d imagine, it was done to try and get around FFP limits , and im not saying it’s worked and nor am I saying I like it 

 

Also , in reference to the John West possibility’s etc they are a dead end, vauge understanding that TUF have to be careful not to be seen having an influence because Readings owner is also from the TUF family and it’s against the rules to be funding 2 clubs In same league 

 

If we ever reach the Premier League under DC I wouldn’t be surprised to see TUF throwing there name at stuff 

[Yellowbelly]

So to summarise he put up prices, bought some good players & some bad players & made a couple of bad managerial appointments. The rest is just noise. 
Look, we have the benefit of hindsight so it’s pointless defending the appointment of Jos or the purchases of Rhodes, Abdi et al but let’s be right, many signings across football don’t work out - we’re probably on par with the industry tbh. Jos was left field admittedly but so was Farke, Warner etc. We went for it, it didn’t work - so what’s the point of weeing and whinging about it? Chansiri gave us hope for the first time in 2 decades and continues to financially back the club, albeit at a lower level. I’m sure the posters calling him out are obviously pure and productive in thought and deed and are overwhelmingly successful in their fields of expertise - cos if you ain’t then it’s a bit like throwing stones in glasshouses isn’t it?

[swfcjack27]

What a brilliant post. All I will add is that the man is a compulsive liar and this ‘we’re a family’ bollock5 he loves to throw out ain’t gonna wash anymore. That survey sums it all up for me, knew how people were gonna vote which he took as vindication for his total financial mismanagement, would he have put prices down to 20 quid if people voted the other way? Would he f00k. Also suggested at some stage he’d had an offer of 200 million from someone, wouldn’t be here now if that’s the case I’m sure. He’s leading us down a very dark path and I can’t see how we dig ourselves out of it to be honest. That’s what happens when you have a short term gamble, come close but not there and then have no plan. I’d be delighted if he went tomorrow but nobody is gonna touch us.

[BARMYARMY2010]

4 minutes ago, Yellowbelly said:

So to summarise he put up prices, bought some good players & some bad players & made a couple of bad managerial appointments. The rest is just noise. 
Look, we have the benefit of hindsight so it’s pointless defending the appointment of Jos or the purchases of Rhodes, Abdi et al but let’s be right, many signings across football don’t work out - we’re probably on par with the industry tbh. Jos was left field admittedly but so was Farke, Warner etc. We went for it, it didn’t work - so what’s the point of weeing and whinging about it? Chansiri gave us hope for the first time in 2 decades and continues to financially back the club, albeit at a lower level. I’m sure the posters calling him out are obviously pure and productive in thought and deed and are overwhelmingly successful in their fields of expertise - cos if you ain’t then it’s a bit like throwing stones in glasshouses isn’t it?

Get ready fella!! 

[Frazzlebeak]

4 minutes ago, Yellowbelly said:

So to summarise he put up prices, bought some good players & some bad players & made a couple of bad managerial appointments. The rest is just noise. 
Look, we have the benefit of hindsight so it’s pointless defending the appointment of Jos or the purchases of Rhodes, Abdi et al but let’s be right, many signings across football don’t work out - we’re probably on par with the industry tbh. Jos was left field admittedly but so was Farke, Warner etc. We went for it, it didn’t work - so what’s the point of weeing and whinging about it? Chansiri gave us hope for the first time in 2 decades and continues to financially back the club, albeit at a lower level. I’m sure the posters calling him out are obviously pure and productive in thought and deed and are overwhelmingly successful in their fields of expertise - cos if you ain’t then it’s a bit like throwing stones in glasshouses isn’t it?

Nope!

[Yellowbelly]

Just now, BARMYARMY2010 said:

Get ready fella!! 

Absolutely.

The second I’m bothered what a faceless bunch of individuals on a message board think about me is the second I pack it all in. They may find it cathartic!

[Dick_Turpin]

1 minute ago, BARMYARMY2010 said:

So to summarise he put up prices, bought some good players & some bad players & made a couple of bad managerial appointments. The rest is just noise. 

Sold the ground to articifially fiddle the figures because of catastrophic trading figures, failed to generate sufficient commercial income, got us embargoed

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Yellowbelly said:

So to summarise he put up prices, bought some good players & some bad players & made a couple of bad managerial appointments. The rest is just noise. 
Look, we have the benefit of hindsight so it’s pointless defending the appointment of Jos or the purchases of Rhodes, Abdi et al but let’s be right, many signings across football don’t work out - we’re probably on par with the industry tbh. Jos was left field admittedly but so was Farke, Warner etc. We went for it, it didn’t work - so what’s the point of weeing and whinging about it? Chansiri gave us hope for the first time in 2 decades and continues to financially back the club, albeit at a lower level. I’m sure the posters calling him out are obviously pure and productive in thought and deed and are overwhelmingly successful in their fields of expertise - cos if you ain’t then it’s a bit like throwing stones in glasshouses isn’t it?

Great points, but feel the fan base has hung drawn and quartered him already , he’ll be off soon is my own personal view 
 

He’s made many mistakes, bad advice was taken and I’m sure he’s got many regrets but if he throws the towel in it’ll be interesting to hear views of exactly what it is the fans wanna see in another owner because we’ve had Chansiri and his £££ I mean the guys family controls TUF were not likely to come up with another owner with the potential financial muscle Chansiri has (some untapped because I do think TUF would step into play on promotion to the PL)    What is it we want ? A plodder like Milan ? Cheap ticket prices , minimal investment and hope we get lucky like blades did with a once in a generation manager in Wilder 

 

Am not sure we want the big money owners, were Sheffield Wednesday and we like been skint 

[BARMYARMY2010]

9 minutes ago, rickygoo said:

Sold the ground to articifially fiddle the figures because of catastrophic trading figures, failed to generate sufficient commercial income, got us embargoed

I didn't post that, yellow fella did. 

[S36 OWL]

9 minutes ago, Yellowbelly said:

Absolutely.

The second I’m bothered what a faceless bunch of individuals on a message board think about me is the second I pack it all in. They may find it cathartic!

 

[Guest Grez Bez]

Give us our badge back FFS

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, rickygoo said:

Sold the ground to articifially fiddle the figures because of catastrophic trading figures, failed to generate sufficient commercial income, got us embargoed

Everything he’s done has been with a short term vision of getting promotion to the PL, which would have made ALL of the issues we currently face irrelevant , yeah he’s guilty of a short term vision and he’s gambled like nobody who’s ever owned this club , he owns them failures it’s on his head and wallet 

 

Don’t talk crap about catastrophic figures and commercial income, none of what he’s done has been done with a view to running a normal business , this is football and nothing’s normal 

 

He’s guilty of gambling a phenomenal amount of money at getting PL football

[WalthamOwl]

44 minutes ago, bladeshater said:

Best chairman we have had in my 50 odd years of watching us I hope he sees it through

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 

[Dick_Turpin]

Just now, Royal_D said:

Don’t talk crap

I'm leaving that to you.

 

[Guest Bulgaria]

3 hours ago, BARMYARMY2010 said:

Aye let's all get a bit upset/angry over Elephants and squad numbers etc, pathetic. 

Your right. You win.

 

Everything is wonderful.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, rickygoo said:

I'm leaving that to you.

 

Listen I’m not saying don’t slate the chairman , crack on , he’s failed and it’s on his head 

 

But what really really winds me up is when people start talking absolute SHYTE about ‘catastrophic figures’ and bad business decisions as if you can treat football clubs like a normal everyday business, you know full well he’s done what he’s done to gamble on PL promotion which would have made EVERY issue irrelevant because of how corrupt the game is and the disgusting amount of money on offer in the PL , and it’s people like YOU that would have been happily worshipping a Chansiri statue without a care in the world if his gamble had come off !