bigdan2003 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) Did he ever have it? Has any of this sorry lot given their absolute all for any manager/care taker manger in the last few years? Have they given their all for the club? Edited February 12, 2020 by bigdan2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhubarb n Custard Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, i used to be sc_owl said: “Lost the dressing room” is one of those phrases that gets trotted out everytime a club has a bad run. However, this is the same core group that stopped playing for Carlos, Jos, Bullen and seemingly now Monk. We are an embarrassment, but at least we are family. Time for a musical interlude... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOLS Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Has FF been subbed after 45 minutes more than any other player? I'd love some statto person to do the analysis (I'm afraid I'm not a great Fernando fan - great skill but not a team player) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonbones Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, WOLS said: Has FF been subbed after 45 minutes more than any other player? I'd love some statto person to do the analysis (I'm afraid I'm not a great Fernando fan - great skill but not a team player) FF has shot his load - he will never be effective for us again, any manager currently selecting him is basically saying "I don't know what i'm doing" Any fan thinking he has anything left to offer for us is equally deluded. CHEATING A WAGE! Just like our current manager. Edited February 12, 2020 by Salmonbones 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 He has certainly lost his mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, Minton said: Forestieri at left wing back and then subbed at half time. He may or may not have lost the dressing room, but he's sure as shyte lost his mind. 4 minutes ago, Morepork said: He has certainly lost his mind. Ahem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Cosby Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 When the players and chairman do what they want without repercussions, there's only one person who's left to blame. Let's sack another manager, that'll sort it all out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 My bet is senior players twigged/were told a while back they weren’t getting new contracts, dummy’s have dropped out and the atmosphere has gone a bit toxic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysgame Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, Kopparberg said: The manager might not have helped himself, but these lads are a disgrace. Seen better pub sides. I still back monk. This the players 100%. They are a disgrace, whatever has been said to them they are professional's and you would have thought some of the senior players would have a word and sort this. Funny thing is I bet everyone off then will play their heart out against Man City. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlmanc Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 23 minutes ago, i used to be sc_owl said: “Lost the dressing room” is one of those phrases that gets trotted out everytime a club has a bad run. However, this is the same core group that stopped playing for Carlos, Jos, Bullen and seemingly now Monk. We are an embarrassment, but at least we are family. What family would that be the Addams or the Wests? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) Yep he’s lost them alright. Doesn’t take much for this lot to turn on you though. They’ve got no pride in the shirt whatsoever. Edited February 12, 2020 by SallyCinnamon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, vulva said: My bet is senior players twigged/were told a while back they weren’t getting new contracts, dummy’s have dropped out and the atmosphere has gone a bit toxic. If they haven't been told directly, they may have inferred it. After all, Fox and Dawson have had offers. Those who haven't may have drawn their own conclusions. Whatever, the situation does not look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, DJMortimer said: If they haven't been told directly, they may have inferred it. After all, Fox and Dawson have had offers. Those who haven't may have drawn their own conclusions. Whatever, the situation does not look good. One player has definitely been told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debram Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 It's starting to get awkward...... I think most of us accept that the vast majority of our players are stealing a living, lack the qualities we need and should be f**ked off as soon as possible. That said, some of Monk's tactical approaches are nothing short of catastrophic, today being a good example. I'd backed him for more time but it get harder and harder to justify that view after performances like tonights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobness Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) 44 minutes ago, marcx666 said: Thats what happens when the manager throws the players under the bus publicly, to cover for his ineptitude. Chicken/egg, isn't it? The players were only "thrown under the bus" when they decided to stop playing for him. Not sure how that qualifies Monk as "inept", unless you're speaking strictly of his man management skills. There are some personalities in the dressing room, and it's quite possible they're responsible for creating a toxic atmosphere, not Monk. Edited February 12, 2020 by bobness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshTheOwl Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, vulva said: One player has definitely been told. who is out of contract this summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys Salopettes Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, vulva said: My bet is senior players twigged/were told a while back they weren’t getting new contracts, dummy’s have dropped out and the atmosphere has gone a bit toxic. one senior player in particular ... who (with his close cohort) is training with kids and banned from using first team facilities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, bobness said: Chicken/egg, isn't it? The players were only "thrown under the bus" when they decided to stop playing for him. Not sure how that qualifis Monk as "inept", unless you're speaking strictly of his man management skills. There are some personalities in the dressing room, and it's quite possible they're responsible for creating a toxic atmosphere, not Monk. Inept as in man management skills, as I already explained, and his tactics, or lack thereof. The whole "only one way of playing which is boot it up to the striker", and the substituions which are never to change a game, but always like for like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MA55 IVE Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I don't even care whether Monk has lots the dressing room or not but I will never forgive these bunch of pansies that play for us right now. I hate every single player more than I hate the manager. There isn't 1 player out there in that team I would be bothered about losing. Weak, spineless, cowards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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