gypsyowl Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 he's so bad and should never play for us again, I'd rather play Hunt, can't be any worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 What do you want for 350k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted February 10, 2020 Author Share Posted February 10, 2020 39 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: What do you want for 350k A holding midfielder that makes at least 1 tackle in a match. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwokenGiant Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 I am sure Monk will be fully aware of his performance stats against Barnsley - for the record how many tackles/interceptions did he make in previous games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdan2003 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 He was a massive weak link on Saturday. In fairness, Louongo would be the first name on the team sheet anyway, so fingers crossed he's back for Saturday. Personally i'd rather he played Hutch than Pelupessey. But it's a tough one for Monk, does he go with players who are showing the right character or pick those with a poor attitude. I know there's no evidence to suggest Hutchinson has a poor attitude, but something is clearly wrong given that two managers have seen fit to freeze him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 45 minutes ago, TrickyTrev said: A holding midfielder that makes at least 1 tackle in a match. They start at 690k I am afraid. For 350k you just get a few interceptions 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andytrig Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 The problem with playing Bannan and Pelupessy together is that they are 5'7" and 5'8" respectively. We don't win any balls in the air that drop in the centre of midfield and therefore have to work harder to get the ball back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 And to put into context that was a bottom 3 club in Barnsley that played round him.... imagine the performance against a Fulham or west brim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted February 10, 2020 Author Share Posted February 10, 2020 45 minutes ago, AwokenGiant said: I am sure Monk will be fully aware of his performance stats against Barnsley - for the record how many tackles/interceptions did he make in previous games? I’m not sure but he looked equally as dreadful against Wigan. It must just be when he comes up against the best midfielders in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ash76 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, TrickyTrev said: I’m not sure but he looked equally as dreadful against Wigan. It must just be when he comes up against the best midfielders in the division. Wrong. He was a lot worse at Wigan. The attacks on our players are sad. Just for balance, no tackles in 60ish minutes for Joey. The legend that is Hutchinson made 1 tackle in 90 minutes in this game. That's footall https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1381535/LiveStatistics/England-Championship-2019-2020-Sheffield-Wednesday-Cardiff All the same posters were exactly same with Fox, now you all suck him off, embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted February 10, 2020 Author Share Posted February 10, 2020 29 minutes ago, Ash76 said: Wrong. He was a lot worse at Wigan. The attacks on our players are sad. Just for balance, no tackles in 60ish minutes for Joey. The legend that is Hutchinson made 1 tackle in 90 minutes in this game. That's footall https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1381535/LiveStatistics/England-Championship-2019-2020-Sheffield-Wednesday-Cardiff All the same posters were exactly same with Fox, now you all suck him off, embarrassing. It’s not an “attack”, that seems to be word used by certain sections of our fan base to defend poor performances. This is a football forum where fans discuss the performances of the team and various players. We have just been outplayed by one of the worst sides in the division and in that game our holding midfielder didn’t make a single tackle. I think such a poor level of performance is a valid topic of discussion for fans, you’re free of course to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwokenGiant Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Ash76 said: Wrong. He was a lot worse at Wigan. The attacks on our players are sad. Just for balance, no tackles in 60ish minutes for Joey. The legend that is Hutchinson made 1 tackle in 90 minutes in this game. That's footall https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1381535/LiveStatistics/England-Championship-2019-2020-Sheffield-Wednesday-Cardiff All the same posters were exactly same with Fox, now you all suck him off, embarrassing. Just looked at the stats of the other midfielders over the course of the season and there's not much in it, to be fair. Also, to put it into perspective Borner, according to this website, only made 1 tackle against Leeds (1 tackle for a CB). Putting stats aside, I personally don't think Pelupessy is the answer - but cherry picking one game to scapegoat the lad is not entirely soundproof. Edited February 10, 2020 by AwokenGiant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ash76 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Just now, TrickyTrev said: It’s not an “attack”, that seems to be word used by certain sections of our fan base to defend poor performances. This is a football forum where fans discuss the performances of the team and various players. We have just been outplayed by one of the worst sides in the division and in that game our holding midfielder didn’t make a single tackle. I think such a poor level of performance is a valid topic of discussion for fans, you’re free of course to disagree. Have a read of the thread, there are attacks on him. It's embarrassing No comment on Hutch making 1 tackle in 90 minutes? Nah thought not and that is why it is an attack 1 game in isolation and nothing comparative. That is also why it is an attack We don't win, everyone go after Joey. F u ck the lot of ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ash76 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, AwokenGiant said: Just looked at the stats of the other midfielders over the course of the season and there's not much in it, to be fair. Also, to put it into perspective Borner, according to this website, only made 1 tackle against Leeds (1 tackle for a CB). Putting stats aside, I personally don't think Pelupessy is the answer - but cherry picking one game to scapegoat the lad is not entirely scientific. Exactly, does my box in. But football nowadays to fans is about looking at stats, just watch the game, Positionally he was OK Saturday, hence his interceptions. Got close to them too as shown by the fouls. Granted it wasn't a great display but it was a damn sight better than Wigan, that was indefensible. But i'd still not resort to 'i'd do better', 'not even a conference footballer'. Just makes people look like c un ts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted February 10, 2020 Author Share Posted February 10, 2020 Just now, Ash76 said: Have a read of the thread, there are attacks on him. It's embarrassing No comment on Hutch making 1 tackle in 90 minutes? Nah thought not and that is why it is an attack 1 game in isolation and nothing comparative. That is also why it is an attack We don't win, everyone go after Joey. F u ck the lot of ya It isn’t an attack, it’s commenting on the latest in a long line of abysmal performances from a player who’s shown time and time again that he’s completely out of his depth at this level. Hutch like any player has the odd bad game but he’s performed well enough at the club over time to show he has something to offer, Pelupessey has not. I get that you rate him and that’s fair enough but you can’t mask what was yet another abysmal performance by saying those who are fed up of him turning out such substandard performances are “attacking” him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ash76 said: Have a read of the thread, there are attacks on him. It's embarrassing No comment on Hutch making 1 tackle in 90 minutes? Nah thought not and that is why it is an attack 1 game in isolation and nothing comparative. That is also why it is an attack We don't win, everyone go after Joey. F u ck the lot of ya It's not the fans fault that Joey P is being picked ahead of a clearly superior player. Of course that is gonna be frustrating, watching him chop at air every game and look really uncomfortable on the ball. And it's not Joey P's fault he has been given a good contract to play at a level above his ability. We have needed a proper DM for years (Hutchinson isnt one either but a much better option that JP). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwokenGiant Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 1 minute ago, TrickyTrev said: It isn’t an attack, it’s commenting on the latest in a long line of abysmal performances from a player who’s shown time and time again that he’s completely out of his depth at this level. Hutch like any player has the odd bad game but he’s performed well enough at the club over time to show he has something to offer, Pelupessey has not. I get that you rate him and that’s fair enough but you can’t mask what was yet another abysmal performance by saying those who are fed up of him turning out such substandard performances are “attacking” him. Hutchinson is by far our best midfielder - and prob defender (his performances under CC at CB were at times flawless) - however, it is clear that he is a disruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ash76 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Beholder said: It's not the fans fault that Joey P is being picked ahead of a clearly superior player. Of course that is gonna be frustrating, watching him chop at air every game and look really uncomfortable on the ball. And it's not Joey P's fault he has been given a good contract to play at a level above his ability. We have needed a proper DM for years (Hutchinson isnt one either but a much better option that JP). Agreed, it's likely the only persons fault it is that Joey P is getting picked ahead of the better Sam Hutchinson is Sam Hutchinsons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 On 09/02/2020 at 20:03, Beholder said: He reminds me very much of JoC A very ineffective midfielder who tries really hard. JOC was miles better than Joey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, Ash76 said: Agreed, it's likely the only persons fault it is that Joey P is getting picked ahead of the better Sam Hutchinson is Sam Hutchinsons No, it’s Garry Monk’s fault! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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