0114 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Not for one second am I going to demand Monk is sacked over a 1-1 draw, problems at this club start right at the very top and that man seems to avoid criticism from our fans. We need to find a way of playing that creates chances, we was very effective playing direct with Fletcher but still we struggle to unlock teams. Especially at Hillsborough. Most importantly. The players need some confidence. They all look scared to make a mistake, can’t put 2 passes together. It’s just control it and whack it upfield and then it’s not my problem. Players need to be brave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ferkorf Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 2 hours ago, TINGLE75 said: It would be the same old story. Sack him, good old Bullen takes over for a few games until we got someone else and the cycle begins again. Pointless This! Get shut of the players... Every last one don't care if they are fan favourites or not. We really need to change things up massively this summer to get this engine started again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashi Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, Royal_D said: So what do we do ? Let’s get that list of managers out again like when Bruce left , give me one name ? Who’s achievable ? Why not put Hutchinson in charge he seems to know all the answers , he played for Chelsea ya know ... don’t shout at him it’s not allowed It’s not easy getting the right man that’s for sure but if the answer was just giving the wrong manager 4 transfer windows then it wouldn’t matter. Give Monk as long as you want but he won’t become a good manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhubarb n Custard Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 hour ago, KivoOwl said: Monk is an average manager, with an average set of players, so we're mid-table. Not sure what anyone expects tbh. Only problem would be if we get a points deduction because we'll be back in League 1. Fans are desperate for PL football after two decades out of it, and we're paying the highest ticket prices in the second tier in order to get there, but we can't compete at the top end - plain and simple. That's not all down to Garry Monk. What fans expect is a squad like ours to at least do the basics right and put in respectable performances regardless of the opposition. Such inconsistency is bewildering. In fairness to Barnsley I've seen a fair few of their games this season and whilst some of their defending has been poor, offensively they cause problems for most teams in this division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 As much as I don’t particularly think Monk is the man to take us forward he has to be able to bring his own coaches in. Really can’t think of many other clubs that get a manager in but don’t allow him to bring their own people in to work with. Just one more shocking decision from DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashi Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ferkorf said: This! Get shut of the players... Every last one don't care if they are fan favourites or not. We really need to change things up massively this summer to get this engine started again More than half of the team have been changed in the last 14 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Unfortunatly some of our supporters aint got a clue , there are serious problems in the club , westwood is causing huge problems , so is hutchinson heard from a good sourse they have come to blows , im not saying monk is the man long term but most of the problems are here before he arrived. Give me a way out of this and an alternative and i will listen , nobody until the summer can sort this out . The damage can be serious and long term unless players management supporters are as one . We need to stay up its vital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 31 minutes ago, 2roland2 said: Bruce 1.61 points for game at a meaningless time of the season, we were safe and couldn’t go up and down. Not quite, we had an outside chance up until the Villa game, we were a bit unlucky to lose that...then bruce thought foook this i'm off...just need an excuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack the Hat Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 2 hours ago, james o connor said: So it’s not the fact the players are crap then ? They are the same player who were doing ok for Bruce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernOwl Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, WalthamOwl said: As much as I don’t particularly think Monk is the man to take us forward he has to be able to bring his own coaches in. Really can’t think of many other clubs that get a manager in but don’t allow him to bring their own people in to work with. Just one more shocking decision from DC. Hopefully means he only sees monk as a stop gap until the end of the season. He took ages appointing a manager so was obviously not really sold on any of the options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ferkorf Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, kobayashi said: More than half of the team have been changed in the last 14 months. Yeh and they are just as gash.... Thats why i said get rid of the lot.. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 minute ago, handworth52 said: Unfortunatly some of our supporters aint got a clue , there are serious problems in the club , westwood is causing huge problems , so is hutchinson heard from a good sourse they have come to blows , im not saying monk is the man long term but most of the problems are here before he arrived. Give me a way out of this and an alternative and i will listen , nobody until the summer can sort this out . The damage can be serious and long term unless players management supporters are as one . We need to stay up its vital. Players coming to blows in training is nothing new and sometimes not always a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 (edited) Alternatives? There are very few.... What I expect now is about 6 games of ... Can Windass play with Winnall? can Wickham play with Windass? Can Winnall play with Wickham? can Wickham Windass and Wickham play? what about Jordan Rhodes? Its infuriating. I can pick 8 of 'em wiv a "W" and a lisp... Westwood Weach Whodes Winnall Wickham Fowestieri Hawwis Maybe thats the way fowards...? Edited February 8, 2020 by asteener1867 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls-Fan Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, handworth52 said: Unfortunatly some of our supporters aint got a clue , there are serious problems in the club , westwood is causing huge problems , so is hutchinson heard from a good sourse they have come to blows , im not saying monk is the man long term but most of the problems are here before he arrived. Give me a way out of this and an alternative and i will listen , nobody until the summer can sort this out . The damage can be serious and long term unless players management supporters are as one . We need to stay up its vital. But the players available to choose from today really should be good enough to beat Barnsley, or minimum perform well and be held to an unlucky draw. We were worse than Barnsley today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 46 minutes ago, gizowl said: Is Monk only on a 1 year contract ?, if this is true and Chansiri wouldn't allow him to bring in his own backroom staff it makes you wonder how safe his job is. Interesting to know if the fact that so many of our underperforming “stars” being out of contract in the summer is also sowing the seeds of discontent. Nowt to play for is probably the thought in many of their minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, Ferkorf said: This! Get shut of the players... Every last one don't care if they are fan favourites or not. We really need to change things up massively this summer to get this engine started again Presumably that includes all those we’ve signed since Jos? So it’s crazy to keep changing managers, but OK to turnover 50 players in the same period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashley8 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Sack him. Can't change all the players and he has shown NOTHING since he came in. Crap to watch boring and negative. Just stupidly baught another season ticket ! Look for new manager NOW take your time over next few months and get them in so they can have a full pre season. This season is over and he needs to be over. Mistake unfortunately but cut losses n move on. I want to be challenging and entertained that's why I've paid a lot of money YET AGAIN. Don't take us for granted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashi Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, Ferkorf said: Yeh and they are just as gash.... Thats why i said get rid of the lot.. Lol But keep the crap manager? Get a better manager and you get better players...including some of the ones you already have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nando45 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 2 hours ago, hugeowl said: Lees was bad but Borner was horrendous Said for a while now teams have worked out borner and what he does and he looks dead dodgy now at times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, Owls-Fan said: But the players available to choose from today really should be good enough to beat Barnsley, or minimum perform well and be held to an unlucky draw. We were worse than Barnsley today We aint a midfield to start with , dawson needs dropping but for who westwod who needs sacking or wildsmith probably the worst keeper ever ,watch u23s and you will know why he can be picked. The problems in the club are extremely worrying, we have bannan westwood rhodes who we are going nowhere contracted until 2021 taking 5 million in wages . We have hutchinson in effect sacked , getting full pay till summer , loads of other problems on and off the pitch . I just want a club in 2 years i will leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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