Popular Post dunsbyowl Posted January 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2020 Some things just stick in your mind. It was on this night 44 years ago good old Tony Toms took the Wednesday players up on the moors to "rough it" for the night. The incident was marked by this iconic cartoon by Ralph Whitworth, which appeared in The Star makes me laugh every time I see it - it was a testing time for Wednesday and the fans but nevertheless an enjoyable one. Any other memories ? I've had this cutting from the Star since then - can't believe it is nearly 50 years ago! The incident seemed to have a positive effect as Wednesday beat Chester 2-0 in the next match! 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 I recall at the Chester game alan thompson ran onto the field wearing a parka ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Crowd less then 8,000! Were many people at the time concerned whether Wednesday would exist in 5 years time? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justbeanz Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) Remember Tony Toms having a gym above the tyre shop at Sheffield Lane Top on Hatfield House Lane. Bit of a lad if I remember rightly. Edited January 28, 2020 by Justbeanz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldowl67 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 The psychological block of playing at Hillsborough. Some things never change. Maybe it’s time for the first team squad to spend a cold winters night up on the moors again! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanzaroteowl Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 The Chester game was my first time at Hillsborough. It must have made an impression as I didn't miss any type of home game for the next 22 years. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ferkorf Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) I remember my Grandad telling me stories of this. Also he loved to tell me about when Howard Wilkinson used to make them do cross country down Ewden Village and the back whacks of stocksbridge Probably what players miss today, a military style beasting to humble them Edited January 28, 2020 by Ferkorf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Tony Tom's used to drink in the shoulder of mutton in Worrall when he lived up there. It was my local at the time, and quite regular Big Jack was in there with him. Both of them loved chatting and having a pint with the fans. Tony had some Reyt stories about the things he made the players "suffer" in training. He said his methods sorted the men from the boys. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, Ferkorf said: I remember my Grandad telling me stories of this. Also he loved to tell me about when Howard Wilkinson used to make them do cross country down Ewden Village and the back whacks of stocksbridge Probably what players miss today, a military style beasting to humble them Imagine the players agents up in arms if their clients were made to do that now a days. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southportdc Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) Title: No Snowflakes Up on the Moors Articles: Quote Snow over the northern hills Quote Snowy slopes Quote Snowy owl Quote snow-covered Quote snow-covered [again] Edited January 28, 2020 by southportdc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRADDO Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: Tony Tom's used to drink in the shoulder of mutton in Worrall when he lived up there. It was my local at the time, and quite regular Big Jack was in there with him. Both of them loved chatting and having a pint with the fans. Tony had some Reyt stories about the things he made the players "suffer" in training. He said his methods sorted the men from the boys. Was Tony an ex Commando? Absolute no nonsense character. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 hour ago, torryowl said: I recall at the Chester game alan thompson ran onto the field wearing a parka ... His Lambretta was parked in the Groundsmans hut .... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadingOwl Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 28 minutes ago, Ferkorf said: I remember my Grandad telling me stories of this. Also he loved to tell me about when Howard Wilkinson used to make them do cross country down Ewden Village and the back whacks of stocksbridge Probably what players miss today, a military style beasting to humble them My late Father, after retirement, used to walk around Ewden dam twice a day. He regularly saw Wilkinson and the players running around there. Some of them used to pass the time of day with him, as they passed by. Yes, it does seem a lifetime away. Different game, different era. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadingOwl Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Great post Dunsby by the way, As usual. Makes me too melancholic though. Simpler times. The sun always shone and photographs were in black and white. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Plenty of snowflakes around these days 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 34 minutes ago, BRADDO said: Was Tony an ex Commando? Absolute no nonsense character. Yes, he was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunsbyowl Posted January 28, 2020 Author Share Posted January 28, 2020 From a Royal Marine Website - 2018 Keeping the spirit alive (Tony Toms) 02/01/18 Having achieved the Green Beret, the inevitable next step in the ego-tripping scenario, was to become a Physical Training Instructor. However, I had my first stint as a foot-Marine in Aden. ‘The Radfan’ etc was my first experience of active service as such. I also came across Sandy McVicar, who was my company Sgt Major in Y Company of 45 Commando. Having had my first bullet whistle about 5 yards above my head (in anger, of course) I realised that the fighting aspect of being a Royal Marine Commando was definitely 100% not for me. Cowardice is very easy to admit to now, but of course at the time, I pretended that it was all in the line of duty. Having shat myself every time we went up country, I was ecstatic when my year in Aden was over! By the way, during my time in Aden, Sandy McVicar had definitely a positive effect and influence on the young Tony Toms, in his learning and manner, and his natural leadership ability. He corrupted me with the opposite sex in the then ‘VIPs Only Bureika Club, a club served for the Oil people and Sandy and me, because we played rugby for the Combined Services Middle East – so we were mini stars! I began my TWOs course in 1965 along with Len Scott, a bright lad; Fred Cummings, then in the British Judo Squad, a real trier; Mac McKenzie, very smart and a good vaulter; Alex Lynn, a good rabbiter. I haven’t mentioned all the others, not because I didn’t love them as I did all the rest – all great guys with their own reasons for wanting to become a PTI. Fred and I were blessed with the inability to absorb the medical terms of physiology and we’d had a buzz that the inner ear would be in the exam, so we conspired to copy the inner ear, ossicles and all, on toilet paper and carefully rolled it back up so it was in the third toilet, waiting to be exploited. My chances of being scarred during the exam were negligible but Fred was in the British Judo team – good credibility. He was duly allowed to go to the toilet. I waited with baited breath for his return, as he was to write it down and then pass it to me. After ten minutes I looked at him with a quizzical look and he looked back at me in the way only a brainless person can do! He then scribbled something on his paper and dropped it on the floor. I dutifully picked it up ready to start copying the inner ear, only to read the following: ‘Sorry, mate, I’ve really gone blank. I can’t remember. I really can’t!’ I hated Fred Cummings with vengeance from then on. So I was delighted when during our Qualifying celebration, PU Maurice Logue, who weighed about 3 stone at the time, floored Fred in a Judo contest breaking Fred’s thumb as well. Delighted I was! While I’m at it, it’s strange that all the people who were helped the most by the Corps and the Physical Training Instructor Wing don’t seem to come back for the reunion – to pay homage if nothing else. Like professional football clubs, the Branch is always bigger than any individual. I learnt that lesson very quickly in my professional football days. I was Jack Charlton’s right-hand man for seven years at Sheffield. Wednesday visiting CTCRM a number of times as a privilege we both appreciated. However, having saved the club from the lower end of the Third Division into the Premier, and change a 3 million-pound debt into a 2 million in the black, to reach two semi-finals, to be asked to resign, was a hell of a wakening up period for me. I related to a conversation in a pub in Sheffield a few years later when a supporter was singing my praises and the supporter opposite him said: ‘Tony who?’ That’s how quick it is, like that, no you can be thankful you’ve been there, looking back. I am a very proud man that I belonged to the PT branch for so long. The branch in particular gave me empathy that chance to put yourself in other people’s shoes, especially where pain and other people’s physical and mental distress are on the line. A great lesson for anyone. I am writing this from East Timor where I am currently trying to earn a living, so bear with me as the facilities to write are zero where I am. I hope to see you all at the next PT Reunion! Tony Toms 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Hobson Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Justbeanz said: Remember Tony Toms having a gym above the tyre shop at Sheffield Lane Top on Hatfield House Lane. Bit of a lad if I remember rightly. I worked in the butchers shop next to the tyre shop...defo bit of a lad and some of the stories would make you wince... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Owl Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 That Chester game was a real let down. We scored both goals in the opening 10 minutes then did sod all for the rest f the match! As ever with Wednesday it's the hope that kills you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Owl Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 There was another fantastic cartoon came out of that, think it was Ulyett in the Express. Basically one of the players being barbecued with the others saying "it's for the sake of the team!" or something similar. I know the club used to have a couple of the originals framed in the boardroom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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