S36 OWL Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Three fantastic away wins on the spin, one against a Premier league team, one at the league leaders, added to fantastic wins at the likes of Boro and Forest, but at home our form and performances are shocking. We are like two different teams. Is it the pressure of playing at Hillsbro? Is it a mental block when we are at home? It's so frustrating that we can perform so well on our travels, yet be so poor at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Flashman Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Less pressure on the away side. Suits the players and the way we play. Amazing vocal support. Three things we don't have at Hilsborough. 2 Just a bloke. Being dragged along in a world that moves too quick for it's own good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Not sure how many times I need to say this. It's the lack of support and atmosphere from the season ticket holders. They just don't have it in them anymore. Get POTG back, get the the atmosphere back, and the players will perform. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReginaldD Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) 3,000 fans willing them on last night. Other big vocal followings at the other away games. Atmosphere at home is terrible in comparison though they may not feel it consciously if the players are in a working environment where there cheered on my right is this certainly plays a part. Yes the players have a part to play to get the fans singing at home but it can't be all the players. Club as whole may need to look at what is done such as a singing section etc. Cheaper tickets are unlikely to come soon but the pay on the gate offer needs to be revised asap. Edited January 25, 2020 by ReginaldD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debram Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Pressure/nerves, a convincing win would do the trick and not only for the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said: Not sure how many times I need to say this. It's the lack of support and atmosphere from the season ticket holders. They just don't have it in them anymore. Get POTG back, get the the atmosphere back, and the players will perform. Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Not so many gaps for us to exploit, and we don’t have the attacking guile to break sides down 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Really? Really. They add nothing anymore, and haven't for 3 years. They are also progressively getting worse. Contribute nothing to the atmosphere, and are more bothered about moaning about the food, than backing the players. One will be along shortly with the usual excuses, that it's the same at all grounds or the players need to play well to get the fans going. Simple truth is we have an ageing home fanbase who are past it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 The home team sets up to attack, we don't have an attacking force. We have the a midfield of sorts and a decent defence. Away from home we have time to suss out the home team, as we did against Leeds we battened down the hatches took the punches and bide our time. Against QPR they allowed to us express ourselves more and we took advantage of that. Our first goal came from an unusual source as QPR failed to respond to Hutchs vision and Fox looked totally surprised to find himself in front of goal with only the goal keeper to beat, he composed himself well and stuck it away. The second goal was a classic away goal, on the break with the home team chasing the equaliser, the goal was more down to Reach than Winnall (I think that might have been his first shot on target, could be wrong though). To be fair to him he anticipated Reach's run and pass and eagerly pounced on the chance. At home we have to set the pace, dictate the flow of the game but without a competent front line we are quickly back on the backfoot having to make up for their deficiencies and mistakes will inevitably happen then the crowd gets impatient and the players get jittery. We need an forward who can take the game to the opposition, we just don't have that weapon in out arsenal at the moment with Fletcher and FF both on the sidelines. The quicker we address this glaring omission the quicker we start to climb the table. For me this should have been a addressed before the season started once Hooper and Joao had left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said: Really. They add nothing anymore, and haven't for 3 years. They are also progressively getting worse. Contribute nothing to the atmosphere, and are more bothered about moaning about the food, than backing the players. One will be along shortly with the usual excuses, that it's the same at all grounds or the players need to play well to get the fans going. Simple truth is we have an ageing home fanbase who are past it. So we get Tango back and get some american style cheerleaders, retune the band and away we go. Read some codswallop on OT but that's up there with the best of them. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I’m hoping Monk will bring in a bit more invention, and not just replicate Fletcher. Yes we need to replace Fletcher, but we still had this problem when Fletcher was fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: So we get Tango back and get some american style cheerleaders, retune the band and away we go. Read some codswallop on OT but that's up there with the best of them. Typical response from non atmosphere contributor. Start making some noise and stop making excuses. You'll be saying it's because we need a striker next. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatter Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 30 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said: Not sure how many times I need to say this. It's the lack of support and atmosphere from the season ticket holders. They just don't have it in them anymore. Get POTG back, get the the atmosphere back, and the players will perform. The problem with that argument is that it’s only season ticket holders with lots of priority points that have a chance of grabbing the tickets for most away games. The real problem is that our home form is abysmal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Kidneys Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 We're set up as a counter attacking team ... This doesn't work for home fixtures when the onus lies with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 In a nutshell we don’t have the attacking quality to break teams down at home. Sides essentially do to us what we are doing to them away. If Fletcher and FF are going to be out a while then we need some new additions next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr Farrell said: Typical response from non atmosphere contributor. Start making some noise and stop making excuses. You'll be saying it's because we need a striker next. Shaddup and sit down, can't see the game. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 It’s easier for these players away because they can do the very very basics without having the feeling they have to “play football” or entertain. We didn’t really play that well at Middlesbrough, Forest, Brighton, Leeds or last night but we were organised, went out with a solid mindset and did the basic parts first and foremost At home far to often we seem to forget that you still have to win the battle first before you have the right to play Personally I don’t believe atmosphere has one thing to do with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinOwlMan Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Mr Farrell is right Our home support gives more encouragement to the away team players than our own. Our players are forced into a shell Worst home performances are against teams who we have no edge with, like Cardiff and Hull. We're much better against teams like Leeds because our fans are behind the players Away from home our support feel like part of the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Horse Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, torres said: At home far to often we seem to forget that you still have to win the battle first before you have the right to play This for me. Last night I saw the team do something I've hardly seen at home all season: A determination to battle, get the second ball, pressing and all round hunger. Positive play which didn't give the opposites time to organise themselves. And that led to good chances and pressure on their defence. Which gets the crowd up. Indeed, battle for the right to play like last night and we'll be in a much healthier place. Fans can accept defeat if a team has given their all in terms of effort and will cheer them on regardless. As Monk said, we have to have that determination 100% of the time. Do the same at home please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, MartinOwlMan said: Mr Farrell is right Our home support gives more encouragement to the away team players than our own. Our players are forced into a shell Worst home performances are against teams who we have no edge with, like Cardiff and Hull. We're much better against teams like Leeds because our fans are behind the players Away from home our support feel like part of the team nonsense Against Leeds we were better because the players put it in from minute 1 and had the mindset for a battle Against the teams you mentioned they failed to do it The atmosphere comes when you put that ethic into the game At forest the away noise isn’t that great due to lack of numbers and position - yet we won 4-0. Nothing to do with atmosphere one bit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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