One De Bilde Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, dorian gray said: he was the wrong man from the start, money now spent and club in right state, and still you champion the failure. Would you be saying he was the wrong man if we had beaten Hull? He was given money to spend and he spent it - Look at DC if you have an issue with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the monk Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, dorian gray said: why did barca finish third and win f***all? They wouldn't see it as glory if they did unlike some on here "A good day out at Wembley ".....ffs Edited January 23, 2020 by the monk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan™ Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, BIG D said: I don’t get the hate for Carlos. Yeah, it went wrong in the end like it does for most managers but his first season was fantastic. I like the guy His second season was miles better than the first, results wise. That fact seems to have been erased from history after the unfortunate result against Huddersfield though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Kanye West said: Shame it went the way it did with Carlos because the Wembley season has been my best supporting Wednesday. How long have you been watching us? The seasons in the early 90s were better but I even preferred the 2005 and 2012 seasons because they ended on a high instead of that flat feeling after the Hull game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, dorian gray said: monk's still shovelling the sh*t up that he left. Maybe but he’s a boring coach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Tom Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) I like the bloke. I'd just never, ever let him do my Monday night big shop. Edited January 23, 2020 by Mr. Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdan2003 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Another myth... "Carlos spent all our money" Let's be fair here, Chansiri and his "advisor" are as much to blame about the flawed transfer policy and spending- when Carlos arrived he had the benefit of the "transfer committee" behind the scenes. It's no coincidence that during that season there were installed (albeit for a short time) we made some shrewd signings without breaking the bank. It was only after they left we we started chucking money away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, bigdan2003 said: Another myth... "Carlos spent all our money" Let's be fair here, Chansiri and his "advisor" are as much to blame about the flawed transfer policy and spending- when Carlos arrived he had the benefit of the "transfer committee" behind the scenes. It's no coincidence that during that season there were installed (albeit for a short time) we made some shrewd signings without breaking the bank. It was only after they left we we started chucking money away. This for me. Has Carlos ever said how much input he had on the signings? Who actually made the recommendation and gave the green light to signing Rhodes, Abdi, Jones, Boyd, van Aken, Urby etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 minute ago, bigdan2003 said: Another myth... "Carlos spent all our money" Let's be fair here, Chansiri and his "advisor" are as much to blame about the flawed transfer policy and spending- when Carlos arrived he had the benefit of the "transfer committee" behind the scenes. It's no coincidence that during that season there were installed (albeit for a short time) we made some shrewd signings without breaking the bank. It was only after they left we we started chucking money away. Chansiri spent huge in the second season on Reach, Rhodes, Jones, Abdi/Pudil double-deal, and Fletcher on a bumper contract. Don't believe for one moment that Rhodes was Carlos' choice. Doesn't fit the profile. Carlos favoured technical footballers - which Rhodes isn't. Also said he "resisted pressure from upstairs to play him". Rhodes was someone else's guy. We also spurned interest in Forestieri, and declined a £9m offer for Reach which could have allowed us to reinvest. Those decisions fall on Chansiri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Womble Owl said: I'd have him back if he was still here and club continued to sign total garbage on big contracts we wouldnt now have a club .I don't know why you or certain others think he is some sort of a god. that man is a fraud that's why he has had nearly 20 clubs in management and has done absolutely nothing . he is a charmer ,and I bet he could pull some right birds with his chit chat but as a manager please leave that mistake alone in the past. if he ever returned to my club im done. all the dross since is down to him and his appalling management. Edited January 23, 2020 by handworth52 d 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsie Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Wasn't Carlos head coach. Isn't that title normally reserved for someone who coaches but doesn't buy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smhouston Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Ian_D said: I liked him but he should have gone after Wembley That would have been very harsh. Definitely deserved a second season after a great first. However, after that Huddersfield play off performance (and even the entire season performance) that should have been it for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Burnsie said: Wasn't Carlos head coach. Isn't that title normally reserved for someone who coaches but doesn't buy? chansiri clearly stated when asked about this that carlos is our manager not head coach , it was only during his 1st 5 months he had that role. he had full responsibility regards signings from new year jan 2016,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsie Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Just now, handworth52 said: chansiri clearly stated when asked about this that carlos is our manager not head coach , it was only during his 1st 5 months he had that role. he had full responsibility regards signings from new year jan 2016,. K. That's why I asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 34 minutes ago, wilyfox said: You really believe the empty coffers are his doing? You think Rhodes was his signing, along with a number of the others? yes, I take it you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 32 minutes ago, BIG D said: You ok? yes, i'm not blinded by fools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsie Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 minute ago, dorian gray said: yes, I take it you don't. No. DC bought him for the fans, remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Carvalhal failed. He had far more resources than any other manager in the last two decades and didn't deliver. We had a some games where we played some nice football but also quite a few where we played some awful football. His management of players was atrocious and when it came to the big games he couldn't come up the goods. Good riddance and lets hope for better times when we have someone that can deliver promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 33 minutes ago, One De Bilde said: Would you be saying he was the wrong man if we had beaten Hull? He was given money to spend and he spent it - Look at DC if you have an issue with that. yes I though he was the wrong man from the start, his open arsed football would have been exposed in the premier as it was by the pigs at hillsborough. that said I expected us IF ever we went up (possibly) to be trying the wba scenario of up and down, filling and re filling our pockets with parachute money, until we could get up and stay up. but NO, this multi times, short term failure wasn't the man to handle our best opportunity for 20/30 or more years. I cannot understand how he was considered in the first place, I can understand him taking it, but you wouldn't let a tramp hold you fish n' chips whilst you went in for a fork would you, and then blame the tramp? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Burnsie said: No. DC bought him for the fans, remember I never saw where dc said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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