Tudders Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) We were awful on Saturday against Blackburn. We went down to 10 men and Blackburn took full advantage. How many times does a team go down to 10 men and the other team don’t take advantage? We were unfortunate with the ball hitting the post and rebounding in off Dawson’s head. How many times does that happen?It seemed like the ‘perfect storm’. Only a week previously we had beaten Leeds away having kept a clean sheet, made it even more frustrating as we know this team has it in them to beat anyone in the league on their day. If you cast your minds back to Forest away, by half time Rhodes had scored a hat trick for the first time in years and we were cruising at 4-0. Forest fans were leaving in droves and likely writing their team off of any chance of the play offs. Look at them now though, a couple of wins and they’re back amongst it. The memory of our victory likely in the shadows. We need to remember that whether you lose by a 90th minute goal or get battered 5-0, it doesn’t make a huge amount of difference, you still get 0 points, just as a scrappy 1-0 win only gets you 3 points the same as a resounding win. Ok I get the goal difference aspect but it’s rare that comes into play. If Wednesday can bounce back with a couple of wins then we can be right back in the mix. The Blackburn memories will fade like Forests have of their defeat to us. Hopefully GM can focus the lads, put last weekends result behind us and get the best out of us for the forthcoming games. Anyone really can beat anyone in this league-and they do- who’d have backed Stoke winning at WBA last night? It’s about finding that little burst of consistency-teams in this league will only ever string together 3-4 victories at most due to how tight this league is- and remaining balanced both in victory and defeat. Youll always lose games in this division, it’s how you bounce back that matters. Edited January 21, 2020 by Tudders 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzlebeak Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 A Clappers Perspective. Fixed it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oz_owl Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Frazzlebeak said: A Clappers Perspective. Fixed it Wow. Who p1ssed in your cornflakes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justbeanz Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Im kinda getting fed up of having to put things into perspective now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horny owl Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Still fuming We’re just sh!t 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 To put things in perspective that team who were bottom of the league who Wednesday should have hammered at their place(apparently), beat the top of the league last night .................away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 No team ever in the history of the championship or old 2nd division, has won promotion while in the same season lost a game at home 5-0, to a team below them in the league. Just made that up btw..but it will be true...probably. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzlebeak Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, oz_owl said: Wow. Who p1ssed in your cornflakes? Wow! No one. The post is just a regurgitated meld of what’s been written in various posts since the Blackburn defeat. Nothing new, nothing original. Cut and Paste job. As you were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_wells Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 The one thing that does give us a get out of being so critical of last week is how the red card has been rescinded. It's likely we wouldn't have lost 5-0 if we had 11 men However, we were still likely to lose having already set out our stall to be negative and toothless. In true Wednesday fashion, we'll probably recover somewhat - but because of our poor form and general lack of threat at the moment its feeling like the Leeds game was a one-off... not the Blackburn game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, sherlyegg said: No team ever in the history of the championship or old 2nd division, has won promotion while in the same season lost a game at home 5-0, to a team below them in the league. Just made that up btw..but it will be true...probably. When we came 3rd in the Premiership in 92 we lost 6 1 at home to Leeds and 7 1 away to Arsenal. And I haven't even made that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, Tudders said: We were awful on Saturday against Blackburn. We went down to 10 men and Blackburn took full advantage. How many times does a team go down to 10 men and the other team don’t take advantage? We were unfortunate with the ball hitting the post and rebounding in off Dawson’s head. How many times does that happen?It seemed like the ‘perfect storm’. Only a week previously we had beaten Leeds away having kept a clean sheet, made it even more frustrating as we know this team has it in them to beat anyone in the league on their day. If you cast your minds back to Forest away, by half time Rhodes had scored a hat trick for the first time in years and we were cruising at 4-0. Forest fans were leaving in droves and likely writing their team off of any chance of the play offs. Look at them now though, a couple of wins and they’re back amongst it. The memory of our victory likely in the shadows. We need to remember that whether you lose by a 90th minute goal or get battered 5-0, it doesn’t make a huge amount of difference, you still get 0 points, just as a scrappy 1-0 win only gets you 3 points the same as a resounding win. Ok I get the goal difference aspect but it’s rare that comes into play. If Wednesday can bounce back with a couple of wins then we can be right back in the mix. The Blackburn memories will fade like Forests have of their defeat to us. Hopefully GM can focus the lads, put last weekends result behind us and get the best out of us for the forthcoming games. Anyone really can beat anyone in this league-and they do- who’d have backed Stoke winning at WBA last night? It’s about finding that little burst of consistency-teams in this league will only ever string together 3-4 victories at most due to how tight this league is- and remaining balanced both in victory and defeat. Youll always lose games in this division, it’s how you bounce back that matters. It's not just the Blackburn game though is it? It's losing 4 games from 5, having 3 home defeats in a row against genuinely mediocre opposition, being the second lowest home scorers in the league whilst paying champagne prices for flat warm can of Tizer football. And that "couple of wins" which got Forest back into the top 6 was them actually getting 13 points from the last 15. Can anyone see us being that consistent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Nero said: When we came 3rd in the Premiership in 92 we lost 6 1 at home to Leeds and 7 1 away to Arsenal. And I haven't even made that up. You need to read my post again me owd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) We where playing crap before the red card. Imo that wouldn’t have changed if we kept 11 men on the pitch. As has been said it’s not that we lost it’s the way we lost. In most cases when a team goes down to 10 they make it so much harder to play against. We did the complete opposite, we just rolled over and gave up. Losing our last 3 home homes, losing all our Christmas games. It really is poor from the players. Edited January 21, 2020 by WalthamOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) I think the issue is having lost 4 of the last 5 league games not the 5-0 drumming on Saturday. I was full of hope coming up to Xmas but I now find myself agreeing with a lot of the doom mongers on here - we just aren’t good enough over all to end the season in the top 6, nearly but not quite. Edited January 21, 2020 by Spookone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Thought this was going to be about the vanishing point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, alanharper said: It's not just the Blackburn game though is it? It's losing 4 games from 5, having 3 home defeats in a row against genuinely mediocre opposition, being the second lowest home scorers in the league whilst paying champagne prices for flat warm can of Tizer football. And that "couple of wins" which got Forest back into the top 6 was them actually getting 13 points from the last 15. Can anyone see us being that consistent? Didn’t we get 13 points from 15 before the Stoke game? But no tbh I can’t see it as don’t think we’re very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk.Owl Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Totally accept all comments, but so often we are a different team in the 2nd half, don't dispute anything that we may have got well beaten with 11, but they may have had the bolloking they deserved at half time and who knows (I'm sure they still had a rollocking but with 10 men it wasn't going to happen). Let's move on its finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brando Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, alanharper said: It's not just the Blackburn game though is it? It's losing 4 games from 5, having 3 home defeats in a row against genuinely mediocre opposition, being the second lowest home scorers in the league whilst paying champagne prices for flat warm can of Tizer football. And that "couple of wins" which got Forest back into the top 6 was them actually getting 13 points from the last 15. Can anyone see us being that consistent? excellent,true,post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 There is no perspective it was embarrassing , erect of effort , quality and ideas . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 At least the atmosphere is rocking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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