Guest Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, ANDY said: EFL refs are not assessed Really? Where did you find this out from? What control levels/indicators do they have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, ANDY said: EFL refs are not assessed Q. How are match officials assessed? A. The performances of all match officials are constantly monitored by way of club and match observers, match videos or DVD and footage received by the referee coaches. The emphasis is on development of referees and refereeing standards and the match assessor is asked to appraise the referee’s performance against the following competencies; Application of the Laws of the Game and disciplinary control Management of the games and players Personality Teamwork Fitness, positioning and movements Club managers also compile a report on the Referees’ performance and all of this data helps to produce a ‘merit list’ of match officials on which appointments, retention or reclassification are based. Clubs are encouraged to provide constructive feedback on match officials and dialogue is encouraged with Professional Game Match Officials (PGMOL), the body funded by the football authorities to appoint, manage and train across all Premier League, EFL and FA competitions. The EFL Referees’ Manager works with his group in a bid to constantly improve standards and support the development of match officials. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 minute ago, hirstyboywonder said: We were bad but not as bad as we were on Saturday when we couldn't get out of our own half and against Brentford we had the not insignificant difference of having Fletcher to help turn things in our favour. The Brentford result in terms of coming from behind was very much the exception to the norm, unless you can point to numerous other examples...... Three home games in a row we were a goal down before coming back: Swansea, Birmingham and Brentford. Before that there was also Fulham. It's far from rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scilly owl Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Lombado said: what punishment for the ref???.....oh none what so ever...... Ruined a game which was just about to get going..... He was Australian wasn’t he ? He should be sent to Melbourne ( at his own expense) and made to fight the forest fires armed only with a paraffin doused tennis racket wearing nothing but a flammable thong that has been soaked in petrol . Too much ? I can’t help it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Just now, hirstyboywonder said: We were bad but not as bad as we were on Saturday when we couldn't get out of our own half and against Brentford we had the not insignificant difference of having Fletcher to help turn things in our favour. The Brentford result in terms of coming from behind was very much the exception to the norm, unless you can point to numerous other examples...... So you don’t think we would have done anything. That’s up to you. I think we might have because I have seen us play a lot of games home and away this season where we have been rubbish one half and good the other. Our players are not only inconsistent between games but also during games. We scored two in the second half at mighty Leeds without Fletcher. Purely academic argument 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Really? Where did you find this out from? What control levels/indicators do they have? 3 minutes ago, Hookowl said: Q. How are match officials assessed? A. The performances of all match officials are constantly monitored by way of club and match observers, match videos or DVD and footage received by the referee coaches. The emphasis is on development of referees and refereeing standards and the match assessor is asked to appraise the referee’s performance against the following competencies; Application of the Laws of the Game and disciplinary control Management of the games and players Personality Teamwork Fitness, positioning and movements Club managers also compile a report on the Referees’ performance and all of this data helps to produce a ‘merit list’ of match officials on which appointments, retention or reclassification are based. Clubs are encouraged to provide constructive feedback on match officials and dialogue is encouraged with Professional Game Match Officials (PGMOL), the body funded by the football authorities to appoint, manage and train across all Premier League, EFL and FA competitions. The EFL Referees’ Manager works with his group in a bid to constantly improve standards and support the development of match officials. I'm sure someone on here mentioned that theyre not assessed on a game to game basis i may be wrong and it could just be a figment of my imagination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 47 minutes ago, sweetsheri said: The player who rolled about like a giant flange should be retrospectively banned 100% this. That cheating fkr rolled about with his arm up for help & he wasn't even injured. Wnkr. From where we are in the North, it looked like he got some verbals when he sat down after being subbed. Mowbray then sent him down the tunnel. Anybody in the South confirm this? Was anybody from OT still in the South?! (and awake) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 minute ago, ANDY said: I'm sure someone on here mentioned that theyre not assessed on a game to game basis i may be wrong and it could just be a figment of my imagination The bit I posted was from the EFL official website FAQ's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, cowl said: Three home games in a row we were a goal down before coming back: Swansea, Birmingham and Brentford. Before that there was also Fulham. It's far from rare. Fair enough, getting a point may not be as rare as it once was, how far back do you have to go for a win other than the Brentford result? The two home games prior to Saturday didn't show much hope of getting a result either, the fact we don't have a presence in attack without Fletcher being key. At least we rolled our sleeves up and became hard to play against with 10 men though eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, sweetsheri said: The player who rolled about like a giant flange should be retrospectively flanned .. Our lass is preparing one for me for afters ... I've requested mandarin oranges and lime Jelly .. Edited January 21, 2020 by OWLERTON GHOST 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, oldishowl said: So you don’t think we would have done anything. That’s up to you. I think we might have because I have seen us play a lot of games home and away this season where we have been rubbish one half and good the other. Our players are not only inconsistent between games but also during games. We scored two in the second half at mighty Leeds without Fletcher. Purely academic argument Indeed we did, had we conceded in that first half I think the result might have been different, thankfully we didn't. Monk himself said the performance was unacceptable with 11 never mind 10, that speaks volumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 it was never in doubt that it would get recinded despite some of our fans thinking that the efl have it in for us so why even bother appealing. still think it would have ended up at least 3-0 4-0 without the sending off , we have been awful at home now for some time the world beating 442 what was used over xmas showed why we cant play that system unless we drop bannan and get 2 new strikers in. bannan needs to play further forward that's clear but with his limitations he needs to be in a 3 . you just get the feeling that a lot of supporters are going to start squaring up to each other like they were doing regularly 3 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAnotherShez Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, The only way is S6 said: 100% this. That cheating fkr rolled about with his arm up for help & he wasn't even injured. Wnkr. From where we are in the North, it looked like he got some verbals when he sat down after being subbed. Mowbray then sent him down the tunnel. Anybody in the South confirm this? Was anybody from OT still in the South?! (and awake) With the match won, I think Mowbray realised he could take him off. Bannan had just charged into him and been warned, Travis (?) could have been tw@tted properly, instead of rolling round with a twisted sock and dislocated hair grip. Hope the ref is embarrassed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 2 hours ago, latemodelchild said: Shame we can't replay the game. I wouldn't want to watch that again and I didn't even go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: Our lass is preparing one for me for afters ... I've requested mandarin oranges and lime Jelly .. With a hint of ginger... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Indeed we did, had we conceded in that first half I think the result might have been different, thankfully we didn't. Monk himself said the performance was unacceptable with 11 never mind 10, that speaks volumes. Not quite sure what point you are trying to make. Everybody accepts we were rubbish with 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Just in case you wasn't sure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 24 minutes ago, OhForAnotherShez said: With the match won, I think Mowbray realised he could take him off. Bannan had just charged into him and been warned, Travis (?) could have been tw@tted properly, instead of rolling round with a twisted sock and dislocated hair grip. Hope the ref is embarrassed. Yep. He wasn’t popular. I thought he got abused after he went off & took his seat on the bench mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls_fan_since_1983 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Referee should feature in the new specsavers ad, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobness Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 47 minutes ago, Hookowl said: Q. How are match officials assessed? A. The performances of all match officials are constantly monitored by way of club and match observers, match videos or DVD and footage received by the referee coaches. The emphasis is on development of referees and refereeing standards and the match assessor is asked to appraise the referee’s performance against the following competencies; Application of the Laws of the Game and disciplinary control Management of the games and players Personality Teamwork Fitness, positioning and movements Club managers also compile a report on the Referees’ performance and all of this data helps to produce a ‘merit list’ of match officials on which appointments, retention or reclassification are based. Clubs are encouraged to provide constructive feedback on match officials and dialogue is encouraged with Professional Game Match Officials (PGMOL), the body funded by the football authorities to appoint, manage and train across all Premier League, EFL and FA competitions. The EFL Referees’ Manager works with his group in a bid to constantly improve standards and support the development of match officials. Thanks a long way of saying "some people on Owlstalk don't half talk a lot of sh!te" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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