Guest Ash76 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 What a great piece of business and servant to the club he has been but he’s finished here now I’m sad to say. Has little influence on games nowadays and just seems to follow the game. He doesn’t get close enough to the opposition and refuses to contest 2nd balls. He isn’t effective in possession anymore, and wants way too long on the ball. His first touch isn’t what it was either. It’s sad too see but we’re now watching his time here come to an end and I think if he wants to carry on playing he’ll have to drop down a level. Might be unpopular but I wouldn’t have him anywhere the first 11 again but I’ll remember him fondly when he inevitably does leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday_Jack Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Or maybe just an off day for the lad? His last couple of performances have been pretty decent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gresh Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Disagree. He had a good game against Leeds. Everyone was poor yesterday and just one of those games unfortunately. I still think Lee has a lot to offer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Had his day - like so many here - but we keeping persevering with and expecting from. We can evolve when DC finally realises he must trade players. His stubborn approach has held us back for 3yrs and counting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) Yeah , everyone was poor yesterday. Lee was too. But no point singling him out saying he's had it when we were all praising him only a game ago. Edited January 19, 2020 by Beholder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frastheowl Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 14 minutes ago, Ash76 said: What a great piece of business and servant to the club he has been but he’s finished here now I’m sad to say. Has little influence on games nowadays and just seems to follow the game. He doesn’t get close enough to the opposition and refuses to contest 2nd balls. He isn’t effective in possession anymore, and wants way too long on the ball. His first touch isn’t what it was either. It’s sad too see but we’re now watching his time here come to an end and I think if he wants to carry on playing he’ll have to drop down a level. Might be unpopular but I wouldn’t have him anywhere the first 11 again but I’ll remember him fondly when he inevitably does leave. This coming a week after he had a great game away at Leeds. Why does everybody have to be so reactionary? Why is balance and rationale, seemingly redundant these days amongst football fans? He had a really poor game yesterday, as did another 12-13 players. Why single him out? Odd. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 against Brighton and Leeds he was back to his best Now he is finished This site 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 I don't believe he's fully fit yet. Also very unfair to single anyone out when the whole team were so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ash76 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 He wasn’t anywhere near back to his best vs Leeds or Brighton. I’m talking about him generally. He’s one of those players who’s flaws will be seriously exposed in a poor team performance but they’re still apparent even when the team is playing well. If we’re to continue with 3 in midfield then one has to be Hutchinson or Pelupessey with Bannan and Luongo in front. He he wouldn’t get in my starting 11. We can’t be sentimental about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 We were a man down in the middle of the pitch and an ineffective striker. Whats he supposed to be able to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookesowl Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 32 minutes ago, Ash76 said: What a great piece of business and servant to the club he has been but he’s finished here now I’m sad to say. Has little influence on games nowadays and just seems to follow the game. He doesn’t get close enough to the opposition and refuses to contest 2nd balls. He isn’t effective in possession anymore, and wants way too long on the ball. His first touch isn’t what it was either. It’s sad too see but we’re now watching his time here come to an end and I think if he wants to carry on playing he’ll have to drop down a level. Might be unpopular but I wouldn’t have him anywhere the first 11 again but I’ll remember him fondly when he inevitably does leave. Rubbish. If used correctly Lee is good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraschenbern Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 All about opinions ain't it. For me I'd have a fit Lee in a midfield three with Hutch and Luongo. Personally think Bannan is what's holding us back. I know that will be an unpopular opinion on here. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ash76 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Kraschenbern said: All about opinions ain't it. For me I'd have a fit Lee in a midfield three with Hutch and Luongo. Personally think Bannan is what's holding us back. I know that will be an unpopular opinion on here. Habe a look at assists and chances created per game game for each of them and you’ll see what that will do to us. Madness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraschenbern Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Problem with Bannan, just to try and justify what many of you think was an insane post, is that he offers no defensive cover, and when he has a DM behind him he still refuses to play further up the pitch. Having hutch in playing that role, would allow Lee and Luongo to push on as well as the full backs as Hutch can slot in at center half to make a three when needed. Bannan cant do that. The space between midfield and attack is acres. That's down to Bannan. Has been since he moved to CM regularly. We wont progress while Bannan is still playing for us. Everything goes through him and frankly for the amount of the ball he sees, he's actually pretty ineffective. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 21 minutes ago, Kraschenbern said: Problem with Bannan, just to try and justify what many of you think was an insane post, is that he offers no defensive cover, and when he has a DM behind him he still refuses to play further up the pitch. Having hutch in playing that role, would allow Lee and Luongo to push on as well as the full backs as Hutch can slot in at center half to make a three when needed. Bannan cant do that. The space between midfield and attack is acres. That's down to Bannan. Has been since he moved to CM regularly. We wont progress while Bannan is still playing for us. Everything goes through him and frankly for the amount of the ball he sees, he's actually pretty ineffective. Highest assists in the Championship in 2019 tells a different story. Alongside that he is by far and away our leader in most offensive midfield stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
should know better Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 He is still ok with the right players around him, he certainly gets closer to the opposition and intercepts more ball than our so called superstar. He is more than willing to get forward and indeed that seems to be his first thought rather than a lot of our players who would rather turn back. He is the type of player who likes to play short with others but we are a long ball side at the moment. He did not have his best game yesterday but defensively we were playing with 9 men, BB was marking the ref as usual. I think any midfielder (Luongo will be the next one to get stick) will struggle playing with Bannan. Someone will trot out the assists of BB blindly but could it be the case that if say Reach took all free kicks/corners/penalties and all the play went through him he might have more assists. BB playing where he decides is killing us, anyone sat in the North or South will notice his lack of positioning out of possession week in week out. It is perhaps less noticeable on tv as he is often out of the picture when we are under the cosh. The notion that teams man mark him is utter rubish, Holtby simply picked him up when he was nearest man then just marched off to score two goals. KL is not the issue the superstar that no one wants to buy playing deep is the real issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland Owl Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Lee needs games to get match fit, three on the trot is not enough. Is the problem Bannan, midfield seems to work better without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twolaptops Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Need to persevere a bit longer.....next few games will tell........then sadly it might be ta-ta......thanks for the great memories.......he cannot become an undeserved target for criticism or worse still an Abdi 2.........and same with Hutchinson......enough is enough......vastly over-rated.....we are top heavy with egotistical "living on previous hero" status....FF...KW...AR...JM...JR...time to clear the decks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortlandOwl Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Good servant but he's one on the list who should have been cleared out a couple of seasons ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeder Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Massive fan of KL but do know what you mean. However, he was, and still is the most intuitive, intelligent midfielder we have unfortunately. No one else makes the kinds of forward runs he sees and makes (with and without the ball,) or those short penetrating passes that he can see and make to unlock a well organised defence. Without a player like him in the side we struggle so much to link defence and attack. Hutchinson and Bannan, both very good players in their own right, have us playing impossibly deep at times when playing together. Luongo looks decent but is nowhere near as good as Lee at what he does best. Really difficult conundrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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