nevthelodgemoorowl Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 2 hours ago, 2roland2 said: The EFL have set up these rules and implemented them horrifically, but I fully agree with everything you say!!!! and people are blind to it, said it loads the fact the rules allow teams to lose 39 mill before doing anything is unbelievable. And tbh pointless. The rules need to be there just not in this guise. efl is fizzed the owners are absolute nut jobs and fans are just as bad for not only sitting back and allowing it with no protest but for actually cheering it on. pits like cheering on or encouraging a family member or your best mate for goi g to the casino and betting their life savings on a number on the roulette wheel. we still have fans on here and social media saying fizz it spend and have a massive push to get up this year. football will eventually get what it deserves. Had many a conversation in the other football section on here. It simply can not continue, the bubble is going to pop and very soon. The problem for Premiership and Championship is they both believe some kind of equitable relationship can exist. It can't the fish that the Premiership rejects is sold to the Championship at inflated prices. The gems the Championship has in the locker are stolen by the Premiership with relative ease. Those who try to dress up the situation as being equitable are losing the plot, this dream is akin to mixing Oil and Water it will never work but certainly needs addressing ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, oldishowl said: They can’t stop them from doing it but can say such money doesn’t count as income for FFP purposes. So that’s as good as stopping them doing it. It’s an income for the company. Legitimate income. How can the EFL say it isn’t and can’t go on P&S results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horny owl Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: The problem for Premiership and Championship is they both believe some kind of equitable relationship can exist. It can't the fish that the Premiership rejects is sold to the Championship at inflated prices. The gems the Championship has in the locker are stolen by the Premiership with relative ease. Those who try to dress up the situation as being equitable are losing the plot, this dream is akin to mixing Oil and Water it will never work but certainly needs addressing ! Had to read this a couple of times And I like it I salute you sir 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Essix Blue said: So that’s as good as stopping them doing it. It’s an income for the company. Legitimate income. How can the EFL say it isn’t and can’t go on P&S results? I am no expert but presumably because they set the FFP rules. They can exclude/ include what they like if the Board sign the rules off. Certain expenditure is already excluded I think, stuff like academy and infrastructure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: The problem for Premiership and Championship is they both believe some kind of equitable relationship can exist. It can't the fish that the Premiership rejects is sold to the Championship at inflated prices. The gems the Championship has in the locker are stolen by the Premiership with relative ease. Those who try to dress up the situation as being equitable are losing the plot, this dream is akin to mixing Oil and Water it will never work but certainly needs addressing ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N0rtherner Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 17 hours ago, Maddogbob said: Half the championship is up a creek without a paddle next year because of ffp. The constant points deductions reduce the competition to an even greater farce than it is, and that's just the championship. In all three divisions, we have clubs with potential point deductions. And one league missing a club. That means every final league position, will be decided in court rather than on the pitch. Utter madness. Minus 21 points for everyone!!! And then we can all move on ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakefield owl Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 54 minutes ago, Essix Blue said: So that’s as good as stopping them doing it. It’s an income for the company. Legitimate income. How can the EFL say it isn’t and can’t go on P&S results? I don’t see why the EFL have such an issue with it anyway. It’s a one off thing that all clubs can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Wakefield owl said: I don’t see why the EFL have such an issue with it anyway. It’s a one off thing that all clubs can do. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 I genuinely wonder whether our legal team are working together with the Derby one to really find a robust defence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherOwlExile Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 18 hours ago, sherlyegg said: Did the same lawyer write that, that wrote ours You know like at school when you sat next to a copy cat, and came up with a perfect facsimile of your work? Anyway, a good bolster of our case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpowl Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 15 hours ago, kobayashi said: How would you secure such a guarantee and if breached how would you pursue it against an owner based in say Thailand. It’s a risk element how do secure such guarantors and how do they currently Persue international investors that are always investing into British projects there must be current measures in place I don’t know if you can monitor it on the quarter accounts and punish owners if they’ve agreed to act as Guarantors or investors if say their accounts if proof of funds have dropped below their agreed levels i suppose you do a FFP on the owner not the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jomaco Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 58 minutes ago, Wakefield owl said: I don’t see why the EFL have such an issue with it anyway. It’s a one off thing that all clubs can do. I think they didn't, but this new guy came in and wanted something to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysgame Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 8 hours ago, nbupperthongowl said: I genuinely wonder whether our legal team are working together with the Derby one to really find a robust defence? You would hope so, Morris is a smart cookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 I hope our lawyers are better than the flipping players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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