torryowl Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Blame Harkes said: When I asked who he pointed out poor Fox, who, as my son noted, was scrambling around like a chicken with his head cut off. Turns out that was on Jos and his lack of instruction, That's appalling from Jos....not heard this before when did fox disclose this . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Had a real issue with stamina under Carlos and Jos. I will never forget him effectively giving up against Wolves when he was totally spent , and got himself sent off as he just couldn’t run anymore. . He doesn’t have a natural big engine like Bannan, so needs to really work to be on top of his game fitness wise. He more than anyone has benefited from a harder fitness regime under Bruce , then Monk. New contract makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Of course he should get a new deal, but we should also sign another left back. Full back continues to be a weak spot on both sides of the pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twolaptops Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Off to Auction.................after advice from Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chow Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 just another year, hes been solid this season. Hopefully we can sign another left back soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A E Neuman NYowl Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Deal has been consistently good for 12 months now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfield Owl Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 57 minutes ago, Tudders said: I agree with your mentality but it’s all about hindsight. To sell a player at the top of the game is a gamble as you don’t know if the replacement-if you can find one-will fit in and be equally as good as the player you’re selling. It also sends out the wrong message to a team striving to progress. If Bannan left today how would we feel?Would we be comforted that he’s at the top of his game? I wouldn’t. I’d want him here at Wednesday,with us benefiting from a peak performing BB. If we had a crystal ball and could see that in a couple of weeks he’d be injured or suffer a massive decline in ability then I’m sure we’d be happy enough to sell, but without the benefit of hindsight selling your top players, when you’re pushing for promotion, isn’t the way forward in my opinion. Had we sold FF when the alleged £10M bids were coming in people would have been severely upset, it would have also weakened us considerably, but with hindsight i don’t think there’s a single fan that wouldn’t have sold him even for £5M looking back. Every fan would no doubt have offloaded Fox for £200k 18 months ago, without the benefit of hindsight. Football is so unpredictable. That’s one of its charms. I disagree; we had a strong team in 16/17 and 95% of our fans would have understood had FF been sold in 2016. So please don't blame the club's FFP issues on the fans. Speaking of being severely upset, how upset are fans going to be if we fall foul of a hefty points deduction off the back of FFP sanctions, that results in our potential relegation? Had we sold FF for market value after the Norwich debacle, I wouldn't have been upset in the slightest. FF's head had been turned and the player was becoming a disruptive influence. Most clubs would have looked to move any player on in those circumstances. So what does DC do - gives him a bumper pay-rise & a new contract. Risible decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sMacLean Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 We need a squad, he's a decent player for that at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 5 hours ago, Jon Newsome said: 2 year extension makes sense, if we get a decent offer for him we should sell though and strike while the iron is hot. Too often we've held onto players the last few years until they are worth nothing, Forestieri the biggest example. And bring in who? Fox is a very good championship full back. People expect us to have the best in the league in every position it ain’t gonna happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Been good this season after some very poor performances previously. On this seasons form he deserves a new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Tudders said: I agree with your mentality but it’s all about hindsight. To sell a player at the top of the game is a gamble as you don’t know if the replacement-if you can find one-will fit in and be equally as good as the player you’re selling. It also sends out the wrong message to a team striving to progress. If Bannan left today how would we feel?Would we be comforted that he’s at the top of his game? I wouldn’t. I’d want him here at Wednesday,with us benefiting from a peak performing BB. If we had a crystal ball and could see that in a couple of weeks he’d be injured or suffer a massive decline in ability then I’m sure we’d be happy enough to sell, but without the benefit of hindsight selling your top players, when you’re pushing for promotion, isn’t the way forward in my opinion. Had we sold FF when the alleged £10M bids were coming in people would have been severely upset, it would have also weakened us considerably, but with hindsight i don’t think there’s a single fan that wouldn’t have sold him even for £5M looking back. Every fan would no doubt have offloaded Fox for £200k 18 months ago, without the benefit of hindsight. Football is so unpredictable. That’s one of its charms. Shhhh..dont be silly. Just sell a anyone for a decent fee as soon as they hit form. That's how you build a squad with togetherness and ability. Didn't you know that?? But seriously, great post...youve nailed it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland Owl Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 deal for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggoisgod Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Wont be popular but it's no deal from me. I cannot see past the first 2.5 years of total incompetence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Deal. 26 Rarely ,if ever, injured. Never any bother. Can also play left centre half. How much would a similar standard replacement cost? Considering we cant spend any/much money , more than we can afford. 100% should be re-signed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauchief Owl Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Three months ago I would have said a definite no but he has made excellent progress since then. TBF to Fox he has taken a lot of criticism from the fans but he has turned that around also and appears to be really enjoying his football. I'd be happy to see his contract extended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, meggoisgod said: Wont be popular but it's no deal from me. I cannot see past the first 2.5 years of total incompetence Even if we accept that Fox showed 'total incompetence' in the past (though I don't think he did), players are capable of improvement. Fox was solid under Bruce and has been very good so far under Monk. It would be a bit daft to let a player who's been very good for the past twelve months walk away for nothing because we're judging him on previous performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggoisgod Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Even if we accept that Fox showed 'total incompetence' in the past (though I don't think he did), players are capable of improvement. Fox was solid under Bruce and has been very good so far under Monk. It would be a bit daft to let a player who's been very good for the past twelve months walk away for nothing because we're judging him on previous performances. Agreed he has improved massively but if confidence drops again we are stuck with a squad player at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Give him a deal. He deserves it after the performances and the stick given out by our fan base of which I was one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 minute ago, meggoisgod said: Agreed he has improved massively but if confidence drops again we are stuck with a squad player at best. His confidence could well be linked to the manager he's playing under and the system he's being asked to play in, but that's the same for many players. It may also be influenced by his improved fitness following his decision to do a bootcamp over the summer months. Even if the worst does happen, we're still going to need squad players - I don't see why having Fox as one of them would be a bad thing? I doubt he's one of our top earners in any case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 46 minutes ago, meggoisgod said: Wont be popular but it's no deal from me. I cannot see past the first 2.5 years of total incompetence I wonder if Man City are thinking the same in regard to Kevin De Bruyne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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