Manuel Hidalgo

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The halberd tango by Manuel Hidalgo

Discovering the young Argentine playmaker from Triestina

by

 Francesco Daniel Severi

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December 21 2018

 

 

 

 

 

 

After talking about the last free Lambrughi , today we return to Trieste to tell you the parable - present and future - of a footballer who is giving great football to the audience of Rocco. He is Manuel Hidalgo , an Argentine patent playmaker with an Italian passport born in 1999.

Manuel Federico Hidalgo Gasparini - this is the full name - was born in Olivos, a town of 70 thousand inhabitants in the province of Buenos Aires, on May 3, 1999. After a childhood spent in symbiosis with the ball - a congenital characteristic of every self-respecting Argentine - he arrives at Ferro Carril Oeste , the team from the barrio of Caballito where the 1986 world champion Oscar Garrè also played. The talent is there, the glue to keep the ball attached to the foot as well, and so our protagonist flies to Europe in 2016 to play in the Benfica youth team .

Only one year in Lusitanian land and in 2017 he landed in Triestina , just returned to Serie C after two failures and 5 years of purgatory in the local championships. To bring him to Trieste at the end of the market is Mauro Milanese , already advocate in his experience as manager of Varese of the explosions of players such as Achraaf Lazaar, Aljaz Struna, Giuseppe De Luca and Andrea Barberis.

In Trieste Hidalgo finds Giuseppe Sannino on the bench with his dogmatic 4-4-2, certainly not cast gold for a young and eclectic South American talent. Despite this, the Turin technician tries to throw him into the fray and gives him some race pieces where, however, Hidalgo is unable to affect. Still too immature or unsuitable to play outside the midfield at 4? Probably both. Thus, between one injury and another, Hidalgo ends up in the Berretti team where he is the man in charge of creating havoc in the opponent's defenses. He succeeds great in the challenge against Inter, when the young halberds come out defeated 3-2 but the Argentine makes the Nerazzurri defense go crazy in all senses and signs two goals of fine workmanship. In the first team, led in the meantime by Princivalli after Sannino's resignation,Hidalgo collects a total of 11 appearances for a total of 188 minutes . And an expulsion in the final minutes of the Teramo match, a tangible sign of a South American doc temperament.

The current season of Hidalgo seems to follow the same canvas, with an ankle injury that prevents him from being able to express himself and a few benches. The owner of that bench, however, has changed. At the helm of Triestina is Massimo Pavanel, chosen by Milanese mainly for two reasons. The first is his past as a player-flag of the Union, the second his five-year experience in the youth sector of Hellas Verona accompanied by encouraging results. So to Hidalgo just keep calm, always virtue of the strong , and wait for the right opportunity.

The turning point, Triestina-Imolese

The big opportunity finally comes on December 1st. With the infirmary full, Triestina hosts the Imolese host of Dionisi. The Romagnoli perfectly sleep the game in the first half and thanks to Mirco Petrella's injury, in the second half Pavanel decides to give space to the young Argentine who with his technique can undermine and put in difficulty the highly organized defensive phase of the Romagna. No sooner said than done. Hidalgo constantly drunk the full-back guest Fiore and often creates the numerical superiority necessary to change the inertia of a game that then Triestina wins with a goal by Granoche on a penalty. The action-symbol of the Hidalgo game is at minute 66: recovery of the ball, pretense of body to evade two defenders and filtering low shot to send the striker in depth. During the final minutes, Triestina resists guest forcing with a good contribution from Hidalgo himself who often sacrifices himself to help his companions.

The confirmation, Triestina-Gubbio and Fermana-Triestina

After the exciting segment with the Romagna, Pavanel offers him the opportunity to leave among the eleven holders for the first time in the championship in his halberd experience. And also in this case, Hidalgo offers high level games such as a millimeter left-footed throw for Procaccio and some juggling spells to empty Eugubini's defenders. The same happens to Fermo in the next game, when Hidalgo enters the field to try to straighten a game where Triestina is at a disadvantage. The halberds are unable to reach the same, but beyond the negative result, Hidalgo still offers interesting ideas in front of the Ascoli observers who are curious to see him at work up close.

Triestina-Feralpi, tango in the middle of the defenders

The magic that really sends Rocco into raptures, however, comes in the last game played, the challenge at FeralpiSalò as well as the centenary game. Triestina, in ten, is leading 2-0 and Pavanel sends the boy back on the pitch with the task of keeping the team high and forcing to fold a Feralpi who is dangerously raising the center of gravity in search of a goal that could reopen the game . Hidalgo receives the coach's inputs and does his job perfectly. Useful in the defensive and exciting phase when he decides to send the Garda defenders crazy. Like at the 80th minute when it becomes the protagonist of the scene.Superfine technique and ardor, a condensate of pure Argentinity.

Features that have not gone unnoticed in the eyes of professionals. A name that is quickly ending on the notebook of many teams. Ascoli above all, but Perugia, Pescara and Sassuolo also asked for information. In addition to those that will be added during construction.

Argentina has landed in Trieste. With a tango between the defenders and, in full compliance with the Albiceleste tradition, numerous nicknames. El Muleto , the dialectal equivalent of Niño , will be do

 

 

Great tackle Foxy.

 

 

[airborne_rat_of_s6]

On 15/01/2020 at 23:14, ReginaldD said:

Clearly a world beater...

 

If he can learn to shoot.

fit in nicely at our place.

[room0035]

14 hours ago, Ash76 said:

 

 

All you've done for the last 24 hours is say you want us running in a sustainable way and now you post this nonsense, make thi flippingmind up lad

 

The problem is though we are not being run in a sustainable way, we have had to sell our ground to cover the mismanagement of the club, we are trying to get fans to pay for tickets 10 years in advance to cover either cashflow or mismanagement of the club.

 

We don't sell players, we leave them sat in the stands on silly wages, we scare aware fans and future fans with stupid ticket pricing - nothing the club has done in the last 4 years is sustainable and the plan for the future seem to be poo or bust.

 

The only hope this football club has now is somehow we get promoted and the premiership riches can be used to pay of the mistakes made by one man running our club. Unfortunately this won't happen buying players from Italian 3rd division football but buying proven championship quality players and unfortunately in the current market that means money has to be spent.

[Guest Ash76]

3 minutes ago, room0035 said:

The problem is though we are not being run in a sustainable way, we have had to sell our ground to cover the mismanagement of the club, we are trying to get fans to pay for tickets 10 years in advance to cover either cashflow or mismanagement of the club.

 

We don't sell players, we leave them sat in the stands on silly wages, we scare aware fans and future fans with stupid ticket pricing - nothing the club has done in the last 4 years is sustainable and the plan for the future seem to be poo or bust.

 

The only hope this football club has now is somehow we get promoted and the premiership riches can be used to pay of the mistakes made by one man running our club. Unfortunately this won't happen buying players from Italian 3rd division football but buying proven championship quality players and unfortunately in the current market that means money has to be spent.

 

We gambled, failed and now are addressing. Players have been sold, released and this will have an impact on our finances but you can’t just click ya fingers for the fix and spending millions are proving championship player won’t fix it either 

 

We have to be prudent, the signing of Hidalgo is a very low risk now for the future.

 

So, what do you want? Run the club in a sustainable way or give In to Palace demands? Make ya bloody mind up ffs 

[Inspector Lestrade]

2 minutes ago, room0035 said:

The problem is though we are not being run in a sustainable way, we have had to sell our ground to cover the mismanagement of the club, we are trying to get fans to pay for tickets 10 years in advance to cover either cashflow or mismanagement of the club.

 

We don't sell players, we leave them sat in the stands on silly wages, we scare aware fans and future fans with stupid ticket pricing - nothing the club has done in the last 4 years is sustainable and the plan for the future seem to be poo or bust.

 

The only hope this football club has now is somehow we get promoted and the premiership riches can be used to pay of the mistakes made by one man running our club. Unfortunately this won't happen buying players from Italian 3rd division football but buying proven championship quality players and unfortunately in the current market that means money has to be spent.

 

But we have bought plenty of proven Championship players recent past and this lad from Argentina is one hopefully for the future, you are conflating two different streams into the first team. 

 

Plenty of good solid clubs have took years trying to get in the Prem without success we are one of many. I'm starting to think that the one ingredient we have been missing is a bit of luck.   That certain players click with each other, players stay fit for the big games etc and I know you can make the argument that we should plan for that but you can't plan for every eventuality. 

 

It would be nice if we can sign some quality players but it all seems to complicated by high demands, looks like the selling club have all the aces.  

 

 

[bigdan2003]

12 minutes ago, room0035 said:

The problem is though we are not being run in a sustainable way, we have had to sell our ground to cover the mismanagement of the club, we are trying to get fans to pay for tickets 10 years in advance to cover either cashflow or mismanagement of the club.

 

We don't sell players, we leave them sat in the stands on silly wages, we scare aware fans and future fans with stupid ticket pricing - nothing the club has done in the last 4 years is sustainable and the plan for the future seem to be poo or bust.

 

The only hope this football club has now is somehow we get promoted and the premiership riches can be used to pay of the mistakes made by one man running our club. Unfortunately this won't happen buying players from Italian 3rd division football but buying proven championship quality players and unfortunately in the current market that means money has to be spent.

 

Why are you so hung up on this?

 

He's been brought in as part of our development. 

 

He hasn't been brought in to solve all of our problems. 

[BARMYARMY2010]

20 minutes ago, room0035 said:

The problem is though we are not being run in a sustainable way, we have had to sell our ground to cover the mismanagement of the club, we are trying to get fans to pay for tickets 10 years in advance to cover either cashflow or mismanagement of the club.

 

We don't sell players, we leave them sat in the stands on silly wages, we scare aware fans and future fans with stupid ticket pricing - nothing the club has done in the last 4 years is sustainable and the plan for the future seem to be poo or bust.

 

The only hope this football club has now is somehow we get promoted and the premiership riches can be used to pay of the mistakes made by one man running our club. Unfortunately this won't happen buying players from Italian 3rd division football but buying proven championship quality players and unfortunately in the current market that means money has to be spent.

For crying out loud room, he said himself he knows he'll play for the under 23's,it wasn't announced as a first team signing, why such an issue trying to improve what may or not come thru the "ranks".............. this club has tanked at planning for the future, well that was until Chansiri came in. 

[fpowl]

Does anybody else think He has the hallmarks of a young FF maybe if we’ve got him young enough we can protect him better and train him not to be so controversial 

 

also do you think now he’s registered he’s the kind of player we will see feature against QPR in the cup or is it a little too soon 

 

at 20 I can see him being one we are looking to be around the first team training, i would wager he’s only going to feature in the U23s this season apart from maybe the cup train with the first team preseason and maybe a cheeky lower league loan and 21-22 season or back end of 20-21 season could be his break through 

 

it looks like we’ve paid a small fee for him so to bring a foreigner across having paid for him at 20 years and having a good look at him on trial first I can only imagine the clubs have serious Aspirations of him progressing to the first team 

 

the happy clapper inside me is telling me we could have landed a future 10 million Pound player 

 

I see nothing bad in this signing 

 

good luck lad and welcome 

[Ante's Bubbly]

On 15/01/2020 at 23:07, Kopparberg said:

Welcome Manuel. 

 

Did he come from Barcelona and spikka da gud Ingleesh?

[Lord Snooty]

 

We can only sell our players if people want to buy them. 

 

Anyway. Welcome Manuel.

[Ante's Bubbly]

He's been on trial so we obviously think he could be one for the future and possibly back up for KH. We will have to wait and see.

[Ante's Bubbly]

Bienvenido al club, Manuel!

[room0035]

1 hour ago, Ash76 said:

 

We gambled, failed and now are addressing. Players have been sold, released and this will have an impact on our finances but you can’t just click ya fingers for the fix and spending millions are proving championship player won’t fix it either 

 

We have to be prudent, the signing of Hidalgo is a very low risk now for the future.

 

So, what do you want? Run the club in a sustainable way or give In to Palace demands? Make ya bloody mind up ffs 

I don't know where you get you info from - from what I can see we need a championship proven striker, palace have one and they have a price we either pay it or don't it really does not matter.

 

But if come the end of the season we are once again in problem because we have not got promoted and have lost £15-20m again then there is only one person to blame, not the fans, not the EFL but the person running the club.

[room0035]

1 hour ago, Inspector Lestrade said:

 

But we have bought plenty of proven Championship players recent past and this lad from Argentina is one hopefully for the future, you are conflating two different streams into the first team. 

 

Plenty of good solid clubs have took years trying to get in the Prem without success we are one of many. I'm starting to think that the one ingredient we have been missing is a bit of luck.   That certain players click with each other, players stay fit for the big games etc and I know you can make the argument that we should plan for that but you can't plan for every eventuality. 

 

It would be nice if we can sign some quality players but it all seems to complicated by high demands, looks like the selling club have all the aces.  

 

 

Indeed the issue we have is we don't want to spend any money but we need better players than we have to achieve the end goal of promotion.

 

Had the club been run as a business in a sustainable way, we could build the club, the infrastructure and hopefully in a few years make a team worthy of promotion.

 

The problem is we don't have that club, we have a club which has loss £40M+ in the last few years, we have a club that at the end of this season will the last of the players bought for the silly money gone in 4 years of DC and millions on players and wages the lot will be wasted as they all leave on free. We will have to start again from scratch in a worse position that when DC took over, as the spine of the team Westwood, Lees, Hutch, Lee,  will all be 5 years older and probably not here next season bar Lees.

 

The thing is the young lad may be a good signing or he may never make it but we need promotion this season to sort all the issues built up from the last few years of mismanagement of the club and the only way we do that is by going for it and trying to get promotion if that means paying over the limit to Palace then we don't have a choice because the other option is no promotion and if we do get hit hard by the EFL we could end up leaving the league the other way.

 

[room0035]

1 hour ago, BARMYARMY2010 said:

For crying out loud room, he said himself he knows he'll play for the under 23's,it wasn't announced as a first team signing, why such an issue trying to improve what may or not come thru the "ranks".............. this club has tanked at planning for the future, well that was until Chansiri came in. 

I am not commenting on the Hildigardo lad it was replying to something else.

 

 

[SallyCinnamon]

1 hour ago, room0035 said:

The problem is though we are not being run in a sustainable way, we have had to sell our ground to cover the mismanagement of the club, we are trying to get fans to pay for tickets 10 years in advance to cover either cashflow or mismanagement of the club.

 

We don't sell players, we leave them sat in the stands on silly wages, we scare aware fans and future fans with stupid ticket pricing - nothing the club has done in the last 4 years is sustainable and the plan for the future seem to be poo or bust.

 

The only hope this football club has now is somehow we get promoted and the premiership riches can be used to pay of the mistakes made by one man running our club. Unfortunately this won't happen buying players from Italian 3rd division football but buying proven championship quality players and unfortunately in the current market that means money has to be spent.

Don’t you think the past year have shown signs of encouragement though? We’ve cleared some deadwood, made some shrewd signings without spending big, sending younger lads out on loan to get experience. sold players in Joao, Baker and Thorniley. We all know the mistakes the club has made, but I think the last year has shown DC is learning. 
 

Unfortunately it appears too late with the EFL lurking, but surely you can recognise the club is moving to a more sustainable approach? We do have players who need to be moved on, but you can’t sell them if there isn’t a buyer or a club willing to match or get near near the wages we pay. Yes this is a mistake the club has made with tying down players to expensive contracts, but it’s not something you can just undo. In an ideal world the likes of Rhodes, Forestieri, Westwood would all be moved on but I don’t think anyone will come in for them. Well at least on reasonable terms.

[room0035]

2 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said:

Don’t you think the past year have shown signs of encouragement though? We’ve cleared some deadwood, made some shrewd signings without spending big, sending younger lads out on loan to get experience. sold players in Joao, Baker and Thorniley. We all know the mistakes the club has made, but I think the last year has shown DC is learning. 
 

Unfortunately it appears too late with the EFL lurking, but surely you can recognise the club is moving to a more sustainable approach? We do have players who need to be moved on, but you can’t sell them if there isn’t a buyer or a club willing to match or get near near the wages we pay. Yes this is a mistake the club has made with tying down players to expensive contracts, but it’s not something you can just undo. In an ideal world the likes of Rhodes, Forestieri, Westwood would all be moved on but I don’t think anyone will come in for them. Well at least on reasonable terms.

I was hoping from the start of last January transfer window it look like DC was learning. The signing of iorfa for me was the hope of decent players we could get into the last 6 months of their contracts that given time and opportunity we could develop and if need sell on at decent profits in the future, the business in the summer was good other than Bates (why he is still here who knows).

 

But once again offers were made for Rhodes, Winnall to get them off the wage bill that were turned down because the fees were not of the clubs liking. Instead we will lose another £3m this season in their wages alone.

 

We have had to sell our ground all be it to a shell company to cover the issues of previous seasons, why we didn't just take the points deduction last season like Birmingham and we could have cleared the desk with some of the losses then sold the ground this season, to a company in existence and made sure everything was done in real time. The EFL would not have been happy but I think they would have accepted it. 

 

We then get the 10 year season ticket announcement - we might only sell a 100 or less but the worry for me is this is the clubs thinking, they are not building a solid financially stable club, but looking for quick fixes which could have very damaging affects on the club for 10-20 years going forward.

 

So my question is have the club learnt anything from all the mistakes they have made, I am not sure and it scares the life out of me for the club I have supported all my life and will continue to, it may not exist in a few years time, if this short termist management of the club continues.  

[BARMYARMY2010]

22 minutes ago, room0035 said:

I am not commenting on the Hildigardo lad it was replying to something else.

 

 

You dissed his signing,with "commenting on something" else because he was from the Italian 3rd division. 

[room0035]

Just now, BARMYARMY2010 said:

You dissed his signing,with "commenting on something" else because he was from the Italian 3rd division. 

I disagree signing players for the future when we need players for the here and now.

 

If we had sign the striker we need as well as this lad then great, but if we have been concentrating on signing this lad instead of signing the players we need then …...

[BARMYARMY2010]

6 minutes ago, room0035 said:

I disagree signing players for the future when we need players for the here and now.

 

If we had sign the striker we need as well as this lad then great, but if we have been concentrating on signing this lad instead of signing the players we need then …...

That says more about you then, we have players for the here and now, christ alive, has anyone from the club or have you heard that swfc won't be signing any players on loan/permanently in January?, no you haven't.