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4 hours ago, mattitheowl said:

 

The EFL can block promotion.

 

Correct 

 

They can also make a team finishing in the top 2 compete in the play offs or stop a team in the top 6 competing in the play offs. They can also force a club to be relegated & start with a points deduction the next season. Their powers can be far more draconian under P&S than they were under FFP. 

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We’re gonna get hammered - let’s face it.

 

we play in their league.

 

sure we can push a legal argument but imagine trying to sue a club challenging the rules you signed up to.....

 

never gone end well is it.

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18 minutes ago, Beauchief Owl said:

If this is the case why didn't EFL block QPR from play-offs and eventual promotion a few years back?

I think because qpr went the court route...delaying. They did actually settle out of court in the end for £40m ish.

 I believe the rules have recently changed but I would think there is FA they can do until after any court hearing. I presume, for instance say we went to court in May this year and we lost they could stop us going up ( assuming we were promoted)

 

Foook knows what would happen if the court date was well into next season, i doubt the prem would expel us.

 

The efl will be praying we are not promoted

 

 

Still think the efl have foooked up mesen..

 

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has anything been announced yet about the other clubs under investigation?

Derby and Reading

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1 hour ago, kobayashi said:

Swindon Town in 1990 were denied their promotion to the old Div 1 because of financial irregularities.

Yes they did, but the high court blocked the relegation into a lower division what also the football league wanted.

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2 hours ago, kobayashi said:

Swindon Town in 1990 were denied their promotion to the old Div 1 because of financial irregularities.

 

Not quite the same given that Swindon were charged with no less than 36 breaches of league regulations over a 4-year period. 35 of these were financial breaches to which they pleaded guilty and they later admitted to a further 20 offences. 

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The EFL are as bent as a butcher's hook allegedly from overheard conversation in chippy. 

 

Everton lost 119 million last year 

 

1 rule for 1 league and many other rules for others 

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2 hours ago, hirstyboywonder said:

 

Not quite the same given that Swindon were charged with no less than 36 breaches of league regulations over a 4-year period. 35 of these were financial breaches to which they pleaded guilty and they later admitted to a further 20 offences. 

How dare you come on here spouting facts that contradict the usual anti Chansiri agenda from the OT intelligencia!!!

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3 hours ago, TINKERBELL said:

The EFL are as bent as a butcher's hook allegedly from overheard conversation in chippy. 

 

Everton lost 119 million last year 

 

1 rule for 1 league and many other rules for others 

 

What do Everton have to do with the EFL?

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5 hours ago, hirstyboywonder said:

 

Not quite the same given that Swindon were charged with no less than 36 breaches of league regulations over a 4-year period. 35 of these were financial breaches to which they pleaded guilty and they later admitted to a further 20 offences. 

I didn’t say it was the same. The question was whether a club had been denied a promotion in the past and the simple answer was that Swindon had.

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4 hours ago, TINKERBELL said:

The EFL are as bent as a butcher's hook allegedly from overheard conversation in chippy. 

 

Everton lost 119 million last year 

 

1 rule for 1 league and many other rules for others 

Chelsea were 96million in the hole as well. 

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23 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said:

 

What do Everton have to do with the EFL?

Read the full post not the bit that fits your agenda 

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Just now, soldierboyblue said:

Read the full post not the bit that fits your agenda 

 

What 'agenda'?

 

I'm just trying to work out what Everton's situation has to do with the EFL. As far as I know, the EFL have no power over Premier League clubs?

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Just now, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said:

 

What 'agenda'?

 

I'm just trying to work out what Everton's situation has to do with the EFL. As far as I know, the EFL have no power over Premier League clubs?

As I said read the full post - I’ll spell it out for you she says that the playing field isn’t level across all leagues - that was her point 

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7 hours ago, Ante's Bubbly said:

Check the EFL rules yourself mate, thats the only insight you need. What's your interpretation? This is a forum and I am expressing my opinion on the rules as I have read them. I am quite happy to be put right, or consider other opinions, but surely the EFL would have acted before now if their case was sound. The dates of the transactions must be straightforward after all. I can see that delaying judgement could be more complicated, but the EFL rules appear to be straightforward. They just do not appear to be explicit enough, if they want clubs to file their accounts in a way that does not have the same flexibility as normal business accounts. Haven't people questioned  our accounts on these forums before? 

This is what gives me a glimmer of hope.

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She’s right that there’s 1 rule for 1 league and many other rules for others... because they’re different leagues. Imagine applying League 2 limits to the prem or vice versa. It would make ffp pointless.

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Just now, soldierboyblue said:

As I said read the full post - I’ll spell it out for you she says that the playing field isn’t level across all leagues - that was her point 

 

No, of course it isn't a level playing field, but the EFL can't do anything about the Premier League clubs; they're governed by a separate entity. Of all the dirt we can throw at the EFL, the fact that Everton have spent loads seems to be pretty low on the list.

 

What 'agenda' were you accusing me of having, anyway?

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30 minutes ago, Rhubarb n Custard said:

This is what gives me a glimmer of hope.

Me too. That and an accountant telling me that debt/profit can be spread over several sets of accounts going forwards or backwards over a short number of years. If the EFL are using those same accounts, then it seems only common sense that according to their own rules, we are in the clear. If I am missing something I wish the negative comment makers would explain how the EFL have got a case against us, because I have asked them and they gave me a load of waffle and said that they cannot comment further while the case is ongoing! Maybe there is something else, but hopefully not.

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8 hours ago, Dot said:

has anything been announced yet about the other clubs under investigation?

Derby and Reading

 

 

Nope but there is no potential 21 point deduction headline in that

 

People also forget the fairytale club Bournemouth broke the rules as did Wolves.

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11 minutes ago, Belfast Owl 2 said:

 

 

Nope but there is no potential 21 point deduction headline in that

 

People also forget the fairytale club Bournemouth broke the rules as did Wolves.

Bournemouth were fined 4.75 million which would hardly have deterred the likes of DC from overspending given the revenue to be gained. That season their wage bill was more than double their income.

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