Holmowl Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 hours ago, TrickyTrev said: The one big plus from his lack of effort in training and frequent injuries is that we’ve finally learned to play and win without him. We found that ages ago. In his last 18 starts we’ve won 3. Ipswich - nil nil when he went off Charlton - one one when he went off Brentford - won 2 -0 We are a better TEAM without him. That said, it’s because we persist with him as a striker where he’s hopeless. I’d still love to see him as a winger or wide forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ferkorf Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 hours ago, 83owl said: Charlton away FF started. We scored our goals to win the game after he got subbed off. Yes fair play I did get that one wrong but still a game changer especially in that swansea game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy logics Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Gotta trust monk on this one. If he shows he is ready, committed and on his game I'm sure monk will use him if he sees fit. If not, he will be 'monked' and out on his toes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 I agree he could fire us up ! Get him in side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Newsome Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 It's like those women who get beaten and cheated on but keep going back, that is our fans with Forestieri. He's not provided anything consistently since the second play off season, time to move on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Dutch McLovin said: I agree he could fire us up ! Get him in side Who are you dropping? And/Or are you changing the system to shoehorn him in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakefieldowl Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 A real pity as FF was unbelievable player and so loved by the fans. No idea whats happened to him, but hes not missed. I was one of his greatest fans, but nothing in 3 years now. So sad. If he has anything about him, hell be working his nuts off and trying to restore his reputation. Its his only chance as he wont get any sort of offer like hes on here. The balls in your court fernando........wed love you to come back and impress us again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Well Monk says he's hoping to have him back to full training next week. We'll see what happens then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manchester_Owl Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Here we go again...... He's still the best forward at this club. He will score goals from open play, free kicks and penalties. He will defend from the front and he will be an outlay when we are under it and need someone to bring the ball out and dribble 30+ yards. We will need Nando to be bang in form for the end run. The end run will determine whether we get promoted or not. We don't have any other players who can score consistently. Fletcher is pretty much out for the season. He will be rotated with Harris/Murphy/Reach, Nuhiu/Winnal/Rhodes. Nando himself will need to be in form and he will need to get us promoted, (taking into account our current league standing). For the very reason of getting a contract with us or another club. (On a side note he may be more protected in the Prem by the use of VAR, but that's another issue for another day). What is not useful is this current obsession with bashing our most talented player. He's under contract until the end of the season andI doubt anyone is signing him now. So rather than bash what could turn out to be a very useful asset; why don't you lot try and back him or just keep schtum. Even if we wanted to sell him this January, it's the type of chat seen on this thread that reduces his value, so economically it makes no sense! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, Manchester_Owl said: Even if we wanted to sell him this January, it's the type of chat seen on this thread that reduces his value, so economically it makes no sense! Chairman: We've lined up a deal to sign Forestieri from Sheffield Wednesday. What do you think? Manager: Have you seen what they're saying about him on Owlstalk!? I'd knock a few hundred thousand off your offer, if I were you. Chairman: Right you are. Can't believe we almost overpaid for a player who some blokes on Owlstalk don't rate. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 You should never burn you bridges while ever a player is still on the pay roll (especially when they are on a fair whack) But its about time FF sorted himself out, cut out the attitude and earned his wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 10 hours ago, Holmowl said: Who are you dropping? And/Or are you changing the system to shoehorn him in? If it’s 451/433 I’m using him in an advanced midfield role how Kieron Lee is used, obviously he’s had two very good games so won’t be out of the side at the moment but with his injuries he will need to come out and Forestieri will come in. In a 442 he’s playing up front with Wickham !!! Or if he doesn’t sign whoever else until Fletcher is fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manchester_Owl Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 23 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Chairman: We've lined up a deal to sign Forestieri from Sheffield Wednesday. What do you think? Manager: Have you seen what they're saying about him on Owlstalk!? I'd knock a few hundred thousand off your offer, if I were you. Chairman: Right you are. Can't believe we almost overpaid for a player who some blokes on Owlstalk don't rate. Firstly.... This is what I actually said...... "it's the type of chat seen on this thread that reduces his value, so economically it makes no sense!" Secondly, please mistake me if I'm wrong in thinking that posters on this very site have been sued, (rightly or wrongly), for the content of their post before? I actually don't want to finish my point, for various reasons, which would see me win the argument. So on this very issue I will bow out. But think about. Really think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) Any player in the last months of their contract has to perform. The rest of his career depends on it. So I expect Forestieri to put a shift in to try and impress. But he may struggle getting in the side. Edited January 13, 2020 by Beholder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 33 minutes ago, Manchester_Owl said: I actually don't want to finish my point, for various reasons, which would see me win the argument. Crikey Manners, you can't just leave that one hanging there! If there's a winning blow in the armoury bring out the hammer and crack the old nut wide open, before marching away in triumph! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Manchester_Owl said: Even if we wanted to sell him this January, it's the type of chat seen on this thread that reduces his value, so economically it makes no sense! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 45 minutes ago, Manchester_Owl said: Firstly.... This is what I actually said...... "it's the type of chat seen on this thread that reduces his value, so economically it makes no sense!" Secondly, please mistake me if I'm wrong in thinking that posters on this very site have been sued, (rightly or wrongly), for the content of their post before? I actually don't want to finish my point, for various reasons, which would see me win the argument. So on this very issue I will bow out. But think about. Really think about it. I know that's what you said; it's also what I quoted in my post. As for the rest of your post, despite thinking about it - nay, really thinking about it - I don't have a clue what you're on about, though it's probably worth pointing out that we're not really having an argument - I was just taking the p*ss out of the notion that anything written on Owlstalk would affect Forestieri's value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: I was just taking the p*ss out of the notion that anything written on Owlstalk would affect Forestieri's value. Yes. but just in case. He's worth £20m and not a penny less 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 19 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: Yes. but just in case. He's worth £20m and not a penny less No no no. He's worth 50 million and never goes missing around public holidays. He also trains like a machine. How many times do we have to say it before we get the money ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manchester_Owl Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 39 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: I know that's what you said; it's also what I quoted in my post. As for the rest of your post, despite thinking about it - nay, really thinking about it - I don't have a clue what you're on about, though it's probably worth pointing out that we're not really having an argument - I was just taking the p*ss out of the notion that anything written on Owlstalk would affect Forestieri's value. No. You insinuated that I specifically said anything mentioned on OT would have an affect on his value. I never said that. I said.... It's "this type of chat", which could devalue him, if we are wanting to get rid. However, it's more concerning that you really believe people don't check on social media. Everything has an effect on everything! If you are considering signing a player and you know the fanbase is getting on his back. By viewing let's say..... a 10 page thread, slagging him off. (In this day and age it's perfectly reasonable to gauge this by social media). Then yes, the notion that anything written on OT can have an affect on his value is very real. To what extent, who knows, could be 10p, could be 10k, but don't be so naive to think fans views aren't considered as a factor in valuation. Edited January 13, 2020 by Manchester_Owl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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