horny owl Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 If you’re not in the Premier league you’re nobody these days Money talks and there’s none of that in the EFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton84 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, PortlandOwl said: The Premier League are desperate for club like us, Leeds etc to get promoted. Teams such as Bournemouth, Watford, Norwich etc do nothing for their product. Really? Looking at how tight and exciting it's been this season with the lesser clubs taking loads of points off the supposed big boys, I'm not so sure. And if by their product you mean their relatively newly acquired worldwide audience, most of them won't know much about Sheffield Wednesday. Edited January 6, 2020 by Brighton84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton84 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Owl.1867 said: I'd love to see stats on this; never brought more than a bus to Hillsborough. I do agree with you on the geographical thing though; anywhere too far north of London is going to be annoying to get to for you lot and that includes a lot of clubs so fair play on that side of things. About 3k to London and around the south, 1.5k midlands, 1k up north depending on time of year etc. Whenever I've been to Hillsborough there's been around 1k of us. Obviously more now we're in the Prem but that'll be the same for most clubs. Edited January 6, 2020 by Brighton84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 22 minutes ago, Brighton84 said: Give over. Atmosphere at that second leg was electric at the Amex, too. Lots of your fans I spoke to after that game were really impressed with the ground and the atmosphere that night. Atmosphere at the Amex is often pretty decent. As decent as it gets in this country thesedays, anyway. Did you go to Hillsborough that night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton84 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Half time Bovril said: Did you go to Hillsborough that night? Yeah I did. It was a great atmosphere. But it was at the Amex for the 2nd leg, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 *waves at North Stand Chat* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffsteel Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Brighton84 said: Exactly. People base their opinions of us as a club because of the 90s and 2000s, when the club was ripped apart by rogue owners. Just like the younger generations will base their opinion of you guys on the 2000s and 2010s. We've always had decent support and a big catchment area. You say Brighton have a history.....appreciate that you joined the league in 1921. You also say you’ve always had a decent support pre 2000. but let’s compare the facts regards Brighton’s history compared to Sheffield. Seasons in the top flight. Brighton 7 seasons, Blades 61, Owls 66. Seasons averaging over 25K. Brighton 8 seasons, Blades 20 season, Owls 33 seasons Seasons averaging over 30K. Brighton 3 seasons, Blades 9 seasons, Owls 11 seasons. Seasons averaging below 10K. Brighton 47 seasons, Blades 7 season, Owls 9 seasons. Think the last stat is the most telling. Brighton have completed 92 seasons in league football. So more than half of your history gates have failed to break 10,000. Also more than half of your history (55 seasons) has been in the 3rd tier, so historically not even a Championship club. Both Sheffield clubs have spent most of their histories in the top flight. Edited January 7, 2020 by sheffsteel 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 17 hours ago, Owl.1867 said: ...you're just a slightly bigger MK Dons. Bang on. What tune are we singing that to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 On 06/01/2020 at 12:45, sheffsteel said: It’s a common misconception that Forest are such a big club. Accept that winning the European Cup twice is massive but most of Forest’s history they’ve been (at best) firmly a middle sized club. Lets compare 3 clubs using the following stats. Seasons in the top flight, highest average attendance, number of seasons averaging over 25K, league titles win and FA cups won. Forest have been in the top flight 56, seasons, Blades 61 seasons, Owls 66 season. Forest best support ever averaged 32K, Blades 35K, Owls 42K Forest have averaged over 25K on 13 occasions, Blades 20 times, Owls 33 times Forest league titles = 1, Blades league titles = 1, Owls won the league 3 times. Forest have won the FA cup 2 times, Blades 4 times and Owls 3 times. Since 1971 Forest have only averaged over 25,000 for a total of 5 (five) seasons....that’s pretty poor support over the last 50 years. Regards Brighton they have no history...they've only ever completed 6 (six) seasons in the top flight. We have won the league 4 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We'llNeverBeMastered Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 22 hours ago, Eastern said: https://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?377504-Tinpot-Albion-Massive-Fail some of them really don’t like us. I really cannot understand their insecurities. Given where they were 20 years ago, they rival Wimbledon in terms of quick success. I am not a their stadium. It does not have much character or atmosphere. However they have done things the right way on and off the pitch and we can learn a lot from them. 12 pages of Brighton fans frothing at the mouth about Sheffield Wednesday. Fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 Brighton fans see this thread... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffsteel Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Sham67 said: We have won the league 4 times. On the EFS (European Football statistics) site it says 3 titles in the summary section but when you read through the actual seasons it is FOUR titles. Winners in 03, 04, 29 and 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanye West Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Actually wee wee funny how annoyed they are we beat them, still awfully bitter about the play offs even though they're in the prem. Maybe it's because they know soon enough they'll get relegated and fall back in to insignificance. Brighton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 26 minutes ago, sheffsteel said: On the EFS (European Football statistics) site it says 3 titles in the summary section but when you read through the actual seasons it is FOUR titles. Winners in 03, 04, 29 and 30. Remember it like it was yesterday 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 26 minutes ago, sheffsteel said: On the EFS (European Football statistics) site it says 3 titles in the summary section but when you read through the actual seasons it is FOUR titles. Winners in 03, 04, 29 and 30. Any Wednesdayite would have known that without the need to look it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Owl 2 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 40 minutes ago, We'llNeverBeMastered said: 12 pages of Brighton fans frothing at the mouth about Sheffield Wednesday. Fantastic. Yep we really seem to wind them up. They should concentrate on their big rivalry with Palace 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ferkorf Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I love guest appearances on Owlstalk by the supporters of smaller clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We'llNeverBeMastered Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 17 minutes ago, Belfast Owl 2 said: Yep we really seem to wind them up. They should concentrate on their big rivalry with Palace Ah, the infamous 'motorway Derby'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 It's funny isn't it? One laments being a Wednesdayite most of the time; to be honest it's pretty poo. But then you remember you could support one of these plastic clubs with no real history, who have to make up rivalries and who's greatest players are all from the last five years and you remember that class is permanent no matter how dusty it gets, where as form is temporary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincs Owl Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 7 hours ago, sheffsteel said: You say Brighton have a history.....appreciate that you joined the league in 1921. You also say you’ve always had a decent support pre 2000. but let’s compare the facts regards Brighton’s history compared to Sheffield. Seasons in the top flight. Brighton 7 seasons, Blades 61, Owls 66. Seasons averaging over 25K. Brighton 8 seasons, Blades 20 season, Owls 33 seasons Seasons averaging over 30K. Brighton 3 seasons, Blades 9 seasons, Owls 11 seasons. Seasons averaging below 10K. Brighton 47 seasons, Blades 7 season, Owls 9 seasons. Think the last stat is the most telling. Brighton have completed 92 seasons in league football. So more than half of your history gates have failed to break 10,000. Also more than half of your history (55 seasons) has been in the 3rd tier, so historically not even a Championship club. Both Sheffield clubs have spent most of their histories in the top flight. All very true, but that's history and counts for nothing now. Brightons future looks much more brighter than ours at the moment. Big new ground which can be easily expanded. Bigger catchment are than us (dividing Sheffields population in half). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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