Saturday is our chance to be heard on VAR

[sturutter]

Match going fans in the Premier Legaue are saying that it is ruining the game. The main damage, that you now have to greet a goal with half - celebration, doubt and turning to the big screen, is so big, that fans are reporting that going to the game feels stripped of emotion. Fans of teams like Wolves, who should be enjoying their best football for decades, are saying that it doesn't feel like football any more, and they've never felt so numb at a game. 

 

Football league fans need to make their voice heard that we don't want to suffer this too, and we are one of a few teams who have that chance on Saturday. Let's sing all the songs. In fact, the strongest possible thing we can do is to join in with the Brighton fans, should VAR change a decision against them, and in our favour. 'Wednesday fans join in with Brighton fans despite VAR ruling in their favour' is something that WOULD be noticed, and commented on. 

 

We entered VAR on bad logic. Popular arguments like 'You'll get to celebrate twice,' have been shown to be nonsense. Now, the bad logic continues with 'it's early on, we just need to make changes to VAR.'

 

Offsides are the main threat hanging over goals, which means you now have to doubt rather than celebrate. The demands are to make a decision quicker or better communicated in the ground, but this does not actually undo the damage. If you don't have an instant decision when a goal is scored, you lose so much of what makes the game great. 

 

Of course, there is an argument in the other direction . Seeing that VAR can (sometimes) restore justice, the bad decisions against us feel more frustrating this season. But cancel out a free kick being given instead of a penalty at Hull with the fact that Lees' handball in the box was missed at Reading, and cancel a wrong penalty decision at Derby with a wrong penalty decision at home to Bristol City, and things don't end up too far from even. Even though it would of course improve the game to get these decisions right, the damage is far too high. 

 

Let's be honest, the draw on Saturday is largely uninspiring. But the draw does one significant thing, which, by putting us in a VAR stadium, is to give our fans a chance to make our voices heard on something which many believe is ruining the game. Let's take that chance. 

 

 

Edited January 2, 2020 by sturutter

[BARMYARMY2010]

Correct me if I'm wrong, Wednesday fans made it pretty clear what they thought of VAR at Chelsea in the cup last season. 

[sturutter]

Just now, BARMYARMY2010 said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, Wednesday fans made it pretty clear what they thought of VAR at Chelsea in the cup last season. 

Definitely, but that only started when two decisions went against us. That only counts for so much. Since then, we've seen that the damage that it does to the game is far higher than most thought, and need to make our voices heard whether VAR decisions go for and against us. 

[Inspector Lestrade]

 Sod em 

[bladeshater]

Let the premier League teams worry about VAR we have our own issues to deal with

[Luke]

I wouldn't worry,our reserves will be too busy worrying about Brighton's 5 choice striker to even think about attacking 

VAR will have a quiet day at Brighton 

[Guest Ferkorf]

30 minutes ago, sturutter said:

In fact, the strongest possible thing we can do is to join in with the Brighton fans

 

[sherlyegg]

A slow-mo of the email DC sent to the efl should go to var.

Shearer would say it was a fantastic button press, though Lawro would say the defence is at fault.

Lineker would sit on the fence...as per usual.

[slinger208b]

1 hour ago, sturutter said:

Match going fans in the Premier Legaue are saying that it is ruining the game. The main damage, that you now have to greet a goal with half - celebration, doubt and turning to the big screen, is so big, that fans are reporting that going to the game feels stripped of emotion. Fans of teams like Wolves, who should be enjoying their best football for decades, are saying that it doesn't feel like football any more, and they've never felt so numb at a game. 

 

Football league fans need to make their voice heard that we don't want to suffer this too, and we are one of a few teams who have that chance on Saturday. Let's sing all the songs. In fact, the strongest possible thing we can do is to join in with the Brighton fans, should VAR change a decision against them, and in our favour. 'Wednesday fans join in with Brighton fans despite VAR ruling in their favour' is something that WOULD be noticed, and commented on. 

 

We entered VAR on bad logic. Popular arguments like 'You'll get to celebrate twice,' have been shown to be nonsense. Now, the bad logic continues with 'it's early on, we just need to make changes to VAR.'

 

Offsides are the main threat hanging over goals, which means you now have to doubt rather than celebrate. The demands are to make a decision quicker or better communicated in the ground, but this does not actually undo the damage. If you don't have an instant decision when a goal is scored, you lose so much of what makes the game great. 

 

Of course, there is an argument in the other direction . Seeing that VAR can (sometimes) restore justice, the bad decisions against us feel more frustrating this season. But cancel out a free kick being given instead of a penalty at Hull with the fact that Lees' handball in the box was missed at Reading, and cancel a wrong penalty decision at Derby with a wrong penalty decision at home to Bristol City, and things don't end up too far from even. Even though it would of course improve the game to get these decisions right, the damage is far too high. 

 

Let's be honest, the draw on Saturday is largely uninspiring. But the draw does one significant thing, which, by putting us in a VAR stadium, is to give our fans a chance to make our voices heard on something which many believe is ruining the game. Let's take that chance. 

 

 

At least there isn’t any emotion to be stripped from our games...

[robowl4life]

Did it at Chelsea last season when the pen was over turned. 
 

 

[Greengrass]

I get the sentiment but VAR is a million miles from in my opinion other issues in our pending file.

[cross owl]

Football gets to be more and more of a pain in the ar5e to like as time goes on . The powers that be couldn't make it more of a pain to watch if they tried . While ever skys millions are involved and the top clubs gates stay the same they couldnt care less if all fans hated it as long as subscriptions the world over didn't go down . If all prem clubs fans stopped turning up it would still be far more profitable to stay in the prem than have full stadium every week in the championship . Prem fans arent needed so the powers that be at the top of the clubs couldnt care less as long as tgey stay in the prem , armchair fans dont care and they are the ones paying for sky . 

[JOCOWl]

2 hours ago, sturutter said:

Match going fans in the Premier Legaue are saying that it is ruining the game. The main damage, that you now have to greet a goal with half - celebration, doubt and turning to the big screen, is so big, that fans are reporting that going to the game feels stripped of emotion. Fans of teams like Wolves, who should be enjoying their best football for decades, are saying that it doesn't feel like football any more, and they've never felt so numb at a game. 

 

Football league fans need to make their voice heard that we don't want to suffer this too, and we are one of a few teams who have that chance on Saturday. Let's sing all the songs. In fact, the strongest possible thing we can do is to join in with the Brighton fans, should VAR change a decision against them, and in our favour. 'Wednesday fans join in with Brighton fans despite VAR ruling in their favour' is something that WOULD be noticed, and commented on. 

 

We entered VAR on bad logic. Popular arguments like 'You'll get to celebrate twice,' have been shown to be nonsense. Now, the bad logic continues with 'it's early on, we just need to make changes to VAR.'

 

Offsides are the main threat hanging over goals, which means you now have to doubt rather than celebrate. The demands are to make a decision quicker or better communicated in the ground, but this does not actually undo the damage. If you don't have an instant decision when a goal is scored, you lose so much of what makes the game great. 

 

Of course, there is an argument in the other direction . Seeing that VAR can (sometimes) restore justice, the bad decisions against us feel more frustrating this season. But cancel out a free kick being given instead of a penalty at Hull with the fact that Lees' handball in the box was missed at Reading, and cancel a wrong penalty decision at Derby with a wrong penalty decision at home to Bristol City, and things don't end up too far from even. Even though it would of course improve the game to get these decisions right, the damage is far too high. 

 

Let's be honest, the draw on Saturday is largely uninspiring. But the draw does one significant thing, which, by putting us in a VAR stadium, is to give our fans a chance to make our voices heard on something which many believe is ruining the game. Let's take that chance. 

 

 

Can't see the point in this to be honest. The FA aren't going to stop using VAR because a few Wednesday fans sang songs about it. Best way to protest is for fans to stop going saying its killed football. I've already heard of a few doing this but needs thousands to be doing it, which is doubtful. 

[sturutter]

2 hours ago, JOCOWl said:

Can't see the point in this to be honest. The FA aren't going to stop using VAR because a few Wednesday fans sang songs about it. Best way to protest is for fans to stop going saying its killed football. I've already heard of a few doing this but needs thousands to be doing it, which is doubtful. 

I agree that nothing is going to change on the basis of Wednesday fans on Saturday, but a protest is made of a large number of people making a tiny contribution, and hoping it adds up to enough.

 

Despite our own issues, I think this is bigger than we're giving it credit for. This will  be the single biggest change in our lifetime of football, and how we watch football. Not many people will have a neutral reaction to it, when it comes in. They will either thinks it adds to the game, or takes away, and more and more people are saying that it takes a lot away.

 

This is not just a Premier League issue. In fact, if it's the case that once VAR has come in, it is here to stay, it actually isn't a Premier League issue now. It's a Championship issue.

 

[JOCOWl]

15 minutes ago, sturutter said:

I agree that nothing is going to change on the basis of Wednesday fans on Saturday, but a protest is made of a large number of people making a tiny contribution, and hoping it adds up to enough.

 

Despite our own issues, I think this is bigger than we're giving it credit for. This will  be the single biggest change in our lifetime of football, and how we watch football. Not many people will have a neutral reaction to it, when it comes in. They will either thinks it adds to the game, or takes away, and more and more people are saying that it takes a lot away.

 

This is not just a Premier League issue. In fact, if it's the case that once VAR has come in, it is here to stay, it actually isn't a Premier League issue now. It's a Championship issue.

 

Agree that this will be the single biggest change to football. Its killing the atmosphere, fans becoming deflated, not knowing if they can celebrate when the ball hits the net. Wasn't sure about it when it was announced it was coming in but its far worse than I expected. 

[York_Owl]

The standard of refereeing in the efl is that bad I wouldn’t mind having VAR.

[Justbeanz]

"Its not football anymore"

[Guest Theboylangers]

6 hours ago, sturutter said:

Match going fans in the Premier Legaue are saying that it is ruining the game. The main damage, that you now have to greet a goal with half - celebration, doubt and turning to the big screen, is so big, that fans are reporting that going to the game feels stripped of emotion. Fans of teams like Wolves, who should be enjoying their best football for decades, are saying that it doesn't feel like football any more, and they've never felt so numb at a game. 

 

Football league fans need to make their voice heard that we don't want to suffer this too, and we are one of a few teams who have that chance on Saturday. Let's sing all the songs. In fact, the strongest possible thing we can do is to join in with the Brighton fans, should VAR change a decision against them, and in our favour. 'Wednesday fans join in with Brighton fans despite VAR ruling in their favour' is something that WOULD be noticed, and commented on. 

 

We entered VAR on bad logic. Popular arguments like 'You'll get to celebrate twice,' have been shown to be nonsense. Now, the bad logic continues with 'it's early on, we just need to make changes to VAR.'

 

Offsides are the main threat hanging over goals, which means you now have to doubt rather than celebrate. The demands are to make a decision quicker or better communicated in the ground, but this does not actually undo the damage. If you don't have an instant decision when a goal is scored, you lose so much of what makes the game great. 

 

Of course, there is an argument in the other direction . Seeing that VAR can (sometimes) restore justice, the bad decisions against us feel more frustrating this season. But cancel out a free kick being given instead of a penalty at Hull with the fact that Lees' handball in the box was missed at Reading, and cancel a wrong penalty decision at Derby with a wrong penalty decision at home to Bristol City, and things don't end up too far from even. Even though it would of course improve the game to get these decisions right, the damage is far too high. 

 

Let's be honest, the draw on Saturday is largely uninspiring. But the draw does one significant thing, which, by putting us in a VAR stadium, is to give our fans a chance to make our voices heard on something which many believe is ruining the game. Let's take that chance. 

 

 

 

[Guest Theboylangers]

1 minute ago, Theboylangers said:

 

Not sure about the Um Bongo ad though.

 

[horny owl]

We need VAR in the championship so sh!t refs can’t keep phookin us over