notts0wl Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 2 goals in 2 games. Outstanding. All overshadowed by results but worth remembering. Lets keep the spirit up. Well done son. Haters gunna hate. Keep it up! Loving our set pieces. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binky Griptite Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Lees scored from pretty much the last corner we slung into the box, after that we tried fancy dan short corners and near post skidders. Just lift it into the box and let em scrap it out. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl999 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Get it in the mixer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bulgaria Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 21 minutes ago, Binky Griptite said: Lees scored from pretty much the last corner we slung into the box, after that we tried fancy dan short corners and near post skidders. Just lift it into the box and let em scrap it out. We scored our last 3 goals from corners so what do we do? Try short corners and fizz it up. Only Wednesday. Thick as pig poo . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 4 hours ago, notts0wl said: 2 goals in 2 games. Outstanding. All overshadowed by results but worth remembering. Lets keep the spirit up. Well done son. Haters gunna hate. Keep it up! Loving our set pieces. Plus, he hasn't been perfect but he has defended better than Iorfa these last few games. Still our best CB, and we are lucky to have three very good ones this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefdave Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, Holmowl said: Plus, he hasn't been perfect but he has defended better than Iorfa these last few games. Still our best CB, and we are lucky to have three very good ones this season. Lees has always been more comfortable with a calm head beside him (e.g. Loovens). Borner has the same effect, Iorfa seems to make him panic (Borner seems to have a calming effect on Iorfa too). I'd concentrate on keeping Lees and Borner together and mould Iorfa into a permanent right back. PS. Get Bamba from Cardiff as a 3rd centre back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuttyTeabags Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I have to disagree. We have looked defensively solid until he came back into side. His defensive positioning has led to quite a few of our goals against. Look at where he is v Stoke where ball gets recycled into our box and he's 10 yards behind rest of defence playing them onside. Great, 2 goals scored and 5 conceded in 2 games. Borner and Iorfa at CH every day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
York_Owl Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Holmowl said: Plus, he hasn't been perfect but he has defended better than Iorfa these last few games. Still our best CB, and we are lucky to have three very good ones this season. Which two would you pick as your best pairing? Lees and Borner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twolaptops Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Are Burnley still in for £15m Iorfa ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 minute ago, twolaptops said: Are Burnley still in for £15m Iorfa ?? I wouldn’t have thought so after his performances against Derby, Stoke and Cardiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernowl Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Playing with Iorfa, Lees has to be a left-sided centre back which is not his natural position. Seems better with Borner. Iorfa so reminds me of Carlton Palmer when he goes forward that I am surprised they haven’t tried him in a central midfield holding role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Did my head in that...Lees dominates them in the air and scores We get another corner and play it short and fail to even get a cross into the box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Iorfa and Lees have both been off the boil last few games Dont just single Lees out - he’s actually bagged 2 goals, where Iorfa has probably been the worse off 5 goals in 2 games - a few of them could have been stopped early, but we were caught napping from the off all over the park against Cardiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlBiSeeinThi Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, DuttyTeabags said: I have to disagree. We have looked defensively solid until he came back into side. His defensive positioning has led to quite a few of our goals against. Look at where he is v Stoke where ball gets recycled into our box and he's 10 yards behind rest of defence playing them onside. Great, 2 goals scored and 5 conceded in 2 games. Borner and Iorfa at CH every day of the week. I agree. Lees is not a calm ball playing CB. Borner is, Iorfa is, even hutch is when he's in there. All I'm saying the back line seems to be more panicked since Lees came back in. It wasn't long ago since most on here were singing the praises of the Iorfa, borner pairing. It has to be said we seemed more solid and dangerous on the counter. I think in the new year/ next season there is still room for Lees but either as part of a back three or as I've suggested before with Iorfa in front as a midfield destroyer. But this will need a system change and we can't afford to experiment this campaign if we want to maintain our lofty status. Edited December 31, 2019 by OwlBiSeeinThi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, DuttyTeabags said: I have to disagree. We have looked defensively solid until he came back into side. His defensive positioning has led to quite a few of our goals against. Look at where he is v Stoke where ball gets recycled into our box and he's 10 yards behind rest of defence playing them onside. Great, 2 goals scored and 5 conceded in 2 games. Borner and Iorfa at CH every day of the week. Ball watching for both the Cardiff goals. No use scoring goals if you are responsible for conceding them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Lees , Borner and Iorfa are all cracking players, why not play all 3 ? Then you get 3. Central midfielders which may get Bannan higher up the Park Wing backs Reach is made for it Harris has done a lot of defensive work recently Fletch and ? Up top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, York_Owl said: Which two would you pick as your best pairing? Lees and Borner? I wouldn’t consider which pairing. I would pick my best defence. Iorfa Lees Borner Fox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) There’s a lot of recency bias going on here, almost revisionism. I remember people lauding Lees after Charlton, Forest and another game I can’t remember which. I also remember people talking about our panicky defending without Lees against WBA, and even more so after our late Capitulation against Blackburn. And how dodgy Börner was against Brum, and how more settled we were with Lees in the side. He hasn’t been perfect, but neither were things before he came back (remember our late goals conceded and lack of a win in 5 or so games?) Edited December 31, 2019 by McRightSide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 28 minutes ago, 83owl said: Ball watching for both the Cardiff goals. No use scoring goals if you are responsible for conceding them. Nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 22 minutes ago, hugeowl said: Lees , Borner and Iorfa are all cracking players, why not play all 3 ? Then you get 3. Central midfielders which may get Bannan higher up the Park Wing backs Reach is made for it Harris has done a lot of defensive work recently Fletch and ? Up top Really attractive idea imo. Reach and Harris are real workhorses. The thought of them getting the ball wide from a CB is really exciting. They can both defend, especially being covered by those 3 strong CBS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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