torryowl Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Thorniley is decent enough but better than lees,iorfa & borner probably not at this moment in time so no surprise he cant get a game ... could well turn out against Brighton so the chance to make a case for himself .....Baker is probably 4th choice for the right back slot so he,s got no chance ... penney seems to be doing ok in Germany but so is van aken so the standard may be lower so hard to justify him getting in ahead of fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 19 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Because it is the first time I have seen this thread and thought your reasoning for giving someone a neg was a little harsh, given that the person you criticised had also given sound reasons for the players not being in the side. Have you passed any comment about the actual football debate in this thread yet, this is a football forum as you so rightly pointed out. Have you? I'm wondering though, are you as equally judicious about positive rep points being handed out, or is it only the negs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, cowl said: Have you? I'm wondering though, are you as equally judicious about positive rep points being handed out, or is it only the negs? Post below gives reference to this, I've highlighted it to help you out. Negatives seem to stand out more than positives, not really sure where you are coming from on that, I generally don't feel the need to give out negatives unless the post is needlessly offensive or is clearly talking rubbish like a blunt on the wind up. 1 hour ago, hirstyboywonder said: So you chose to give him a negative for this, completely ignoring the fact that his post detailed the very good reasons why the 2 mentioned players are nowhere near our starting 11. If someone is to start a thread questioning why a player is not playing for us then you would have expected them to know how to spell said players name and also have looked into it a bit first given that the reason he isn't in our squad is because he is on loan to a team in another country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 minute ago, hirstyboywonder said: Post below gives reference to this, I've highlighted it to help you out. Negatives seem to stand out more than positives, not really sure where you are coming from on that, I generally don't feel the need to give out negatives unless the post is needlessly offensive or is clearly talking rubbish like a blunt on the wind up. It was a rhetorical question. I don't give a damn why negs get your back up. And obviously the way people use the rating system will vary from poster to poster anyway. In this case, you saw that I negged the post, you also saw a post by me giving a hint as to why I did. There's really no reason to think the neg was for anything other than the point alluded to in the post of mine you originally quoted. Are you really wanting to spend your time chasing up whether each neg handed out meets your own (subjective) criteria of fairness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, cowl said: It was a rhetorical question. I don't give a damn why negs get your back up. And obviously the way people use the rating system will vary from poster to poster anyway. In this case, you saw that I negged the post, you also saw a post by me giving a hint as to why I did. There's really no reason to think the neg was for anything other than the point alluded to in the post of mine you originally quoted. Are you really wanting to spend your time chasing up whether each neg handed out meets your own (subjective) criteria of fairness? No, I just found it a bit strange that the 1 neg in this debate was nothing to do with the content of the thread or the discussion of the football matter, which you are yet to contribute to. If I was acting as some sort of arbiter regarding negs on this forum then I think I would have very little time to do anything else. I'll try and return this thread to football matters, fee free to contribute. Ash Baker is not considered for selection as to date in his first team and academy performances he has done little to suggest he is up to Championship standard. Jordan Thorniley is behind Iorfa, Borner and Lees in the pecking order for two centre-back places, rightly so based on their overall form this season. Matt Penney is not registered to play for SWFC at this time. We have one of the best defensive records in the division, not sure there was a need to start a thread calling for the above named players to be included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillyno9 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Thorniley possibly going on loan to Blackpool. Good move for lad to get some games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Matt@footballtyper #swfc https://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/status/1212028869152268289 … Alan Nixon@reluctantnicko Sheff Wed. Interest in centre half Jordan Thorniley from Blackpool. Poss loan. Question marks over Heneghan and Tilt futures. 2 3:13 PM - Dec 31, 2019 Twitter Ads info and privacy See Matt's other Tweets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 11 hours ago, hirstyboywonder said: No, I just found it a bit strange that the 1 neg in this debate was nothing to do with the content of the thread or the discussion of the football matter, which you are yet to contribute to. If I was acting as some sort of arbiter regarding negs on this forum then I think I would have very little time to do anything else. You're noting how many negs are in each debate? Seriously, get a grip. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairOwl Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Signed for Blackpool https://www.blackpoolfc.co.uk/news/2020/january/seasiders-agree-deal-for-thorniley/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_Owl Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Shouldn't have sold him, great young defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 (edited) Really surprised and a little disappointed we have let him go, especially on a permanent transfer. Players like him should be the future of our club. Edited January 1, 2020 by WalthamOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Tough one to take . Thought he was one for the future, a proper defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Good move for him, and a better level for him where he should do well - was never going to make it here. Back to the NW too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingOwl Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 (edited) This is one we’ll regret. But he’s at an age where he needs to be playing week in week out. And we can’t guarantee that this season or probably next season. He’ll be Blackpool’s captain soon enough and they’ll sell him for £££. Hopefully we have had the foresight to have a decent sell on clause attached to this deal Edited January 1, 2020 by FlyingOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grez Bez Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 I'm disappointed but it's a good move for him He's a very good limited defender. Easily up to playing Championship football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Very disappointed to see Jordan leave, I thought he’d be a regular in the side in the next year or so. Think this is one we’ll regret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Would have made more sense to loan, but maybe Thorniley himself has requested to leave permanently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 ...and now it starts. The SWFC Fans inability to let go of mediocrity. Honestly, we’d get promoted to the PL and people would go all misty eyed because they’d feel sad about not getting to play Millwall twice a season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 I guess we had to let him ho but since we got Borner and moved Iorfa to CB he hasn't had a look in. He will find his way back to championship level. Blackpool have got an excellent player there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, McRightSide said: ...and now it starts. The SWFC Fans inability to let go of mediocrity. Honestly, we’d get promoted to the PL and people would go all misty eyed because they’d feel sad about not getting to play Millwall twice a season It's not like this one if a 33 year old journeyman. Thorniley is a young player (still 23) and has the potential to improve. Who'd have said 3 years ago when United signed Jack O Connoll from a championship side in L1 he'd end up good enough for the Prem. This is one I think we'll end up regretting come 2025. We need to sell players, but not youngsters with first team potential. It is also not likely his fee will be big enough right now to affect FFP massively anyway. Edited January 1, 2020 by Birley Owl 1867 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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