Just got back

[modboy]

The gap between out midfield and strikers was the killer. With Rhodes and nuhiu up front defenders and midfielders can push on as they're so so so slow 

[oldishowl]

2 minutes ago, darra said:

A report I read said that Stoke did a job on us by stopping the threat of Bannan in midfield. They'd realised that everything comes through him in midfield.

Allan was on him all the time.

It was an obvious plan

But we didn’t do enough to upset their planning generally. 

[RichSheffWeds]

2 hours ago, Westfield Owl said:

 

The sensible thing would have been to reinvest the Joao money into bringing in a replacement forward in the summer.

 

You cannot lose the firepower of Joao, Hooper & Matias in one transfer window and not address that situation.  Everyone could see that.

 

Chansiri let the fans down badly on that score.

You do realise we have FFP issues? 

 

We still have Fletcher, Rhodes, Winnall, Nuhiu and Forestieri. 
 

More strike power on paper than most clubs if those players are motivated. 
 

[victorturner]

58 minutes ago, Bouncing Owl said:

Cheers for the summary. One of my mates went down today and said the same. Probably our worst performance all season and we lost 3-2 in injury time. I still think we can get top 6 quite comfortably without a points deduction. 
 

Be prepared to lose control of games in a 4-4-2 but I totally agree, we need a striker with pace and mobility to play in this formation. We should consider bids for Rhodes, Winnall, FF and Dave in January but I don’t expect many suitors. 
 

Cheers

After scoring twice, thinkthe defence is due an examination.

[victorturner]

6 minutes ago, RichSheffWeds said:

You do realise we have FFP issues? 

 

We still have Fletcher, Rhodes, Winnall, Nuhiu and Forestieri. 
 

More strike power on paper than most clubs if those players are motivated. 
 

That’s right. May be more departures than arrivals. And many on here keep saying what good players we have and they just needed somebody better than CC and JL

[bigthinrob]

1 hour ago, modboy said:

 

Apart from the nailed on pen he failed to give them 

Don’t recall that but we were quite low down on Row 8 so not the greatest view to be fair.

 

If we got away with one as you say, the constant fouls given to them from minute 1 to minute 96 gave them a constant source of supply in decent positions which eventually led to our downfall.

 

This isn’t to brush over our shortcomings by the way, but it didn’t help us.

[airborne_rat_of_s6]

1 hour ago, hirstyboywonder said:

 

I don't think they deserve a skiing holiday after that performance mate!

Neil’s spell check and autocorrect 

[airborne_rat_of_s6]

11 minutes ago, RichSheffWeds said:

You do realise we have FFP issues? 

 

We still have Fletcher, Rhodes, Winnall, Nuhiu and Forestieri. 
 

More strike power on paper than most clubs if those players are motivated. 
 

Of which, one player has performed consistently well this season, one has had one great match and the rest have either been injured or not match fit.

[victorturner]

1 hour ago, S36 OWL said:

 

We only have one striker who is good enough, the rest of em can feck off in January. 

Rhodes scored an excellent hat trick at Forest, just fecently

[uptheowls]

4 minutes ago, bigthinrob said:

Don’t recall that but we were quite low down on Row 8 so not the greatest view to be fair.

 

If we got away with one as you say, the constant fouls given to them from minute 1 to minute 96 gave them a constant source of supply in decent positions which eventually led to our downfall.

 

This isn’t to brush over our shortcomings by the way, but it didn’t help us.

25 fouls given away apparently. We’ve been like it most of the season. Giving teams easy opportunities to put balls in the box

[sheffwed1]

5 minutes ago, victorturner said:

Rhodes scored an excellent hat trick at Forest, just fecently

 

dont want to take too much away from him was a great display but we will do well to come up against defending as shocking as Forests in that first half. 

[Brando17]

9 minutes ago, victorturner said:

Rhodes scored an excellent hat trick at Forest, just fecently

apart from Fletcher,we have the worst strikers in the division imo.hopefully we can do some decent business in the Jan transfer window,,

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, victorturner said:

Rhodes scored an excellent hat trick at Forest, just fecently

 

As delighted as many of us were for him, one stellar performance stands out like a sore thumb against what he has offered in general for us. 

[Buxtongent]

21 minutes ago, victorturner said:

After scoring twice, thinkthe defence is due an examination.

 

It seems peculiar that in several of our recent games, we have lost the game in extra time, by the teams scoring more than once against us, but yet our criticism turns immediately to the forwards. Is it that, in order to get though the last 10 minutes of a game, we must be at least 3-0 up in order to win? But yet, we blame the attack!  Do the stars in the defence bear no responsibility?

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Buxtongent said:

 

It seems peculiar that in several of our recent games, we have lost the game in extra time, by the teams scoring more than once against us, but yet our criticism turns immediately to the forwards. Is it that, in order to get though the last 10 minutes of a game, we must be at least 3-0 up in order to win? But yet, we blame the attack!  Do the stars in the defence bear no responsibility?

 

No doubt the defenders played poorly today, Iorfa and Palmer especially but if you look at the overall pattern of the last two games we have been let down by our inability to keep the ball up top, sustain attacks or get strikers into scoring positions. It is evident that without Fletcher we will struggle to win games. 

[Guest Willow Owl]

2 hours ago, bigthinrob said:

Bannan should be captain, Lees should only be a bit player.

 

Notice Nuhui getting a slating. 
 

Again, not really starting material, but how we could have done with him off the bench to see the game out. 

Okay we get you don’t like Lees but he has been excellent recently. Iorfa was all over the place today and was by far the worst of the centre halves.

[East coast owl]

We have gone from having on paper the best strike force in the championship and not been able to play them all. Now without fletcher we can’t hit a barn door. Sorry but nuhui offers very little. 6”7 and can’t win a header or hold up a ball. At least winnal tried when he came on.. should have started with Rhodes and winnal. let’s hope chansiri can wheel and deal in jan for a striker. 

[Westfield Owl]

1 hour ago, RichSheffWeds said:

You do realise we have FFP issues? 

 

And who’s fault is that, the fans or our incompetent owner?

 

Anyway, Chansiri obviously thought that the stadium sale would have sorted any potential FFP penalties.  So there’s no excuses not to recycle the Joao money back into the club is there really?

 

1 hour ago, RichSheffWeds said:

We still have Fletcher, Rhodes, Winnall, Nuhiu and Forestieri. 
 

More strike power on paper than most clubs if those players are motivated. 

 

Fletcher - Having a great season but will be 33 soon.  Out of contract in the summer, so will need replacing.

Forresteri - An enigma.  Has hardly been available to play for the last 3 years.  Also out of contract.

Winnall - Who knows, hasn’t been given a fair crack here IMO.  Also out of contract.

Nuhiu - Good impact sub, nothing more.  Also out of contract.

Rhodes - Mr £1million per goal.  Say no more.

 

More strike power than most clubs - haha, utter crap.

 

1 hour ago, victorturner said:

That’s right. May be more departures than arrivals. And many on here keep saying what good players we have and they just needed somebody better than CC and JL

 

Very few fans were saying we “just need somebody better” than previous managers in the dugout to seal promotion.

 

We needed a high quality Championship standard striker with pace.  That should have been a priority and all our efforts should have gone into sorting that.

 

Not signing Jacob f*cking Murphy instead.

 

We did some good business in the summer (thanks to Steve Bruce and his team).  Bruce had landed some of his targets (Harris, Borner, Odubajo) But then we were put under embargo until our accounts were submitted.

 

Once we were out of embargo, the club froze, yes Bruce had moved on and a new manager hadn’t been brought in yet.  You can still sign players using the knowledge and experience of the ‘football people’ at the club though.

 

I understand that selling Joao was the right thing to do.  But the money should have been invested back into recruiting a striker to add to the squad.

 

Are you seriously saying our season wouldn’t benefit massively from signing a Lewis Grabban type striker right now?

Edited December 26, 2019 by Westfield Owl

[Guest]

2 hours ago, bigthinrob said:

Excellent summing up mate.

 

I maintain & have done for a while that Iorfa isn’t the same player while he has to keep an eye on Lees. 
 

Agree re the ref, fell for everything they tried on. 
 

 

 

Has to keep an eye on Lees? 

Tom must struggle to pass water, never mind the ball but his defending has been very good of late.

 

Iorfa needed keeping an eye on today to the extent that he could easily have got the hook at half-time. As it was he stayed on the pitch and headed down the injury time corner perfectly into the path of Vokes. He must have been worried about what Lees was doing at the time though eh????

 

Iorfa has been mostly excellent this season but was awful today. He hasn't needed to babysit Lees much in the 6 games unbeaten run we had going into today, our best form of the season.

 

 

Edited December 26, 2019 by Guest

[debram]

1 hour ago, S36 OWL said:

 

And when he is injured or ill we have no one else 

January can't come soon enough.