smhouston Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I love Hutch, but has to be Loungo. He's got a far better all round game to him than I expected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Some of Hutch’s bookings have been stupid and eventually they have cost him two games out and possibly his place in the team. Don’t see why he should walk straight back in , given Luongo’s good performances, perhaps it might make him realise he needs to show more control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miffed Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Definitley Luongo. Its time we moved on from the same old midfield pairings that havent worked for the last few years. Yesterday was the classic type of game where Hutchinson would have been sent off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Luongo all day. Hutch has too much of a red car or injury in his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Just as an aside, it's worth remarking on Hutchinson's fitness this season though. We're half way through the season and he's only missed 4 league games so far, and only 1 of those was due to injury, the other 3 being suspensions. Great to see that though his disciplinary record continues to be an issue, fitness-wise he's probably having his best season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Miffed said: Definitley Luongo. Its time we moved on from the same old midfield pairings that havent worked for the last few years. Yesterday was the classic type of game where Hutchinson would have been sent off. TBF he rarely gets sent off. Last one was September 2016! We hold our breath, but he sails just close enough to the wind to avoid the red coming out. He does give away too many fouls in dangerous places. I hope Monk is working on this. He also gets booked way too early - 4 yellows in first halves this season alone in his 18 games. That has to affect his game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deano Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Definitely ML, seems to be working so why change. Id be interested to see that stats for games BB and ML have started together in a 442, it must be very favourable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Luongo has been a great signing (as have a few of our recent signings), he has to stay in the team for me with Hutch as back up. I think he could even be captain material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, deano said: Definitely ML, seems to be working so why change. Id be interested to see that stats for games BB and ML have started together in a 442, it must be very favourable. Only twice - Forest and Bristol City. Luongo in the starting Xl has been good though. P6. W4. D2. L0 Wigan (scored our only goal) Stoke (scored our only goal) Cardiff Brum Forest Bristol C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deano Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Holmowl said: Only twice - Forest and Bristol City. Luongo in the starting Xl has been good though. P6. W4. D2. L0 Wigan (scored our only goal) Stoke (scored our only goal) Cardiff Brum Forest Bristol C Thanks for that, pretty overwhelming case to have in the team. My initial concern dropping Hutch was if we could remain solid defensively, if anything we have improved in that department. Thus his greater offensive threat while maintaining a good solid structure makes it a no brainer for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I personally think Borner and Hutch are slightly the better players but have no qualms whether Lees and Luongo play. Lees has been absolutely brilliant since he has come back into the team - in fact nearly faultless. Only his distribution is his downfall. Hutch has been brilliant this season and is a natural leader. Luongo is a different type of player but again he always does a good job when he comes into the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Luongo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, FreshOwl said: Luongo You make a very compelling case. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy logics Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Luongo for me based purely on the fact he was part of a winning team this weekend. With a congested fixture list we will no doubt be needing them both at various times in the coming month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DobbinTheDonkey Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Never tinker with a team too much when getting results. Luongo stays in and if he doesn't perform he comes out. Hutch is the better player but he lost his place due to his lack of discipline, if he wants to stay in the team then improve it. Which at this stage of his career isn't going to happen, unless he moves into defence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 13 hours ago, Holmowl said: Interested to get views on this. Would you swap Luongo for Hutch? Really tough call. Given the strength of our squad and the direction we are going, I think the incumbent in a winning team should keep the shirt if playing well. It’s tough on Hutch, but it gives the message to one and all....keep at the top of your game. I think Like Borner has had in the heart of the defence, Hutch now has to sit and wait for his chance, Luongo deserves his run in the team, the same goes for Palmer who has done well since coming back into the team, we used to drop players to bring back in others who were the favourite, with us letting these lads keep their places we are giving them a massive shot in the arm. Look at Dawson as a prime example looks a different keeper from last season 2 goals a game man. he is getting better and better and yesterday he was marshalling his box. had little to do but what he had to do he did well, when he did make an error Palmer was there to bail him out, imagine Odabajo was playing he would have been half way up the pitch no where near to clear off the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocksyuto Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 It's a great headache to have choosing between these 2 , both will be needed for the 2nd half of the season . Stoke are poor and are shipping goals all over the shop and luongo gives bannan the freedom to move and create Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Holmowl said: Only twice - Forest and Bristol City. Luongo in the starting Xl has been good though. P6. W4. D2. L0 Wigan (scored our only goal) Stoke (scored our only goal) Cardiff Brum Forest Bristol C It surprises me that people don't see what Luongo offers. He's got the same energy as Joey but can actually go forward and play football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Holmowl said: You make a very compelling case. There isn’t really a case to be made. Luongo has been very good since he came in, and is more offensive, technically better, and has a better injury and disciplinary record than Hutch. Edited December 23, 2019 by FreshOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 16 hours ago, s6 owl said: A midfield two of Luongo and Bannan have much more about them than Hutch and Bannan so for me i would always go with Luongo. Agreed Hutchinson sits way too deep for me, which leaves us too outnumbered in midfield, especially so late in games which ends up with us being constantly put on the back foot Luongo just gives us so much more imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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