Ever the pessimist Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Lawrie’s Left Peg said: That’s what sell-on clauses are for Which we probably won’t have. Or we’ll be entitled to a bag of nik naks when he wins promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie’s Left Peg Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 19 hours ago, Philb125 said: So Fox is pretty much a mainstay in the third best defence in the league. Plays well with Harris and Bannan down the left, with us sitting in play offs despite throwing away 6-8pts this season.... and many of the posts on here seemingly want to give him away. Odd, really odd. Think you’re missing the point. He can leave for free in the summer. As a free transfer he would most likely be able to negotiate wages higher than we could offer. He has been treated badly by our supporters so why sign a new contract. Selling him in Jan and getting him off the wage bill makes perfect sense especially as we have cover in defence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 fizz me all of a sudden Fox has turned into a irreplaceable mainstay in our Rolls Royce of a team is he doing ok at the moment ? yes Is he anywhere near the standard we should be aspiring too ? not in. Million its amazing what people will settle for Can anyone really see him as a future premiership player ? Maybe Billic does one can only hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beswetherick Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Lawrie’s Left Peg said: Think you’re missing the point. He can leave for free in the summer. As a free transfer he would most likely be able to negotiate wages higher than we could offer. He has been treated badly by our supporters so why sign a new contract. Selling him in Jan and getting him off the wage bill makes perfect sense especially as we have cover in defence We don’t though, really. Palmer and Thorniley can do a job there but they aren’t specialists. Penney is promising but inexperienced, on loan in Germany and injured/recovering from injury. If Palmer plays LB then we’re changing the whole defence round (assuming Iorfa at RB) and breaking up a solid CB partnership (appreciate Börner could come in though). If Palmer gets injured/banned then we’re very light. Fox isn’t ever gonna get you out of your seat but his performances are vastly improved since Monk came in and he’s playing like a solid, dependable Championship LB as part of a settled defence which is looking better game by game. He won’t be on big money and we’d be lucky to get 1m for a player in last six months of his contract so any financial benefit is negligible. We’re in with a shout of promotion. No point upsetting the apple cart for the sake of a small transfer fee and cutting a small % of the wage bill, IMO. In an ideal world we’d extend his contract and look to sign another specialist LB in summer if Penney isn’t ready to challenge yet 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philb125 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 hours ago, beswetherick said: We don’t though, really. Palmer and Thorniley can do a job there but they aren’t specialists. Penney is promising but inexperienced, on loan in Germany and injured/recovering from injury. If Palmer plays LB then we’re changing the whole defence round (assuming Iorfa at RB) and breaking up a solid CB partnership (appreciate Börner could come in though). If Palmer gets injured/banned then we’re very light. Fox isn’t ever gonna get you out of your seat but his performances are vastly improved since Monk came in and he’s playing like a solid, dependable Championship LB as part of a settled defence which is looking better game by game. He won’t be on big money and we’d be lucky to get 1m for a player in last six months of his contract so any financial benefit is negligible. We’re in with a shout of promotion. No point upsetting the apple cart for the sake of a small transfer fee and cutting a small % of the wage bill, IMO. In an ideal world we’d extend his contract and look to sign another specialist LB in summer if Penney isn’t ready to challenge yet This, this, a million times this! Potential opportunity cost/risk to us if he stays and doesn’t sign a contract is 1-2m. Potential opportunity cost/risk to us if he goes and we don’t have adequate cover is 100m plus. For what it’s worth if we’re giving/selling all players on cheap if they’re out of contract in summer we’ve got a fair few others that the boo boys like. Do we do the same with Hutch, Fletcher and co too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 3 acceptable games and you become world class if you play for us. Lowest standards in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greengrass Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Strange game footy, a player who was despised by some of the fanbase only a few months ago is allegedly wanted by a top championship team. Fox for us at the moment is steady, decent crosser of the ball but will never get you out if your seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls-Fan Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Funny what happens when you hire good managers isn’t it. You end up challenging for 3rd place and your players attract interest from elsewhere. Who knew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Whether he stays or leaves - I hope he stays - the great news is he must be brimming with newly found confidence. He’s nailed down his place in a promotion-challenging side, he’s getting fan support and he’s attracting headline interest from other clubs. I expect we will see some strong displays from him over the next few matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 10 hours ago, Emerson Thome said: To be fair to Reda, forcing the ball over the line is a pretty good skill to have... Reda played 87 games for us and scored 19 goals and got 11 assists. Fox just played his 88th games for as last week and he's scored 2 goals and got 5 assists, so even if he is technically sound, that's not worth the +23 goals that Reda brought in the same time. Scoring goals is a very useful asset for a defender, Redas size certainly helped him do that. It’s no use scoring however if you are going to give away as many goals as you score by being out of position/ball watching etc. You only have to look at the levels Reda has played at in his career to realise how poor a defender he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 10 hours ago, Lawrie’s Left Peg said: Because we still have P&S issues. Sell Fox, save his wages and replace from within. Palmer to LB, Iorfa to RB Fox will be on a pittance so selling him won’t make a difference. We have one of the best defences in the league with (apparent) interest in our CB who has improved massively in this position over the past few months and you want to break it up and shift them around for 500k? I’m not against selling fox given his contract status, if we do however we have to invest in a new left back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie’s Left Peg Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 11 hours ago, Ever the pessimist said: Which we probably won’t have. Or we’ll be entitled to a bag of nik naks when he wins promotion. Believe sell-ons a fairly standard with contract expiry situations given that the market value is not realised at point of sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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