Groundhopping Owl Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Staton has just posted that he's at the hearing - "There is a delay as the District Judge needs to read documents that were received late ahead of the hearing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buxtongent Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 On 16/12/2019 at 17:58, oldowl67 said: Almost as stupid as insisting that all 24,000 fans of one team attending a semi final at the ground should gain entry through 23 turnstiles at the narrowest approach to the stadium. In the entire history of the stadium how many times has the entire capacity of North and West sides of the ground been required to gain entry in this way? Up to the infamous day, Hillsborough had staged around 8 semi-finals, most with larger crowds. I believe I'm correct in saying that the same two clubs met at the same stadium , and occupied the same ends, aroundc12 months before, without trouble. If you watch videos (not the official ones which i think have been doctored,) the problem which was never discussed to ,y knowledge, was the number of people wanting to gain entrance in the final 15 minutes before KO. The main problem to me was this late arrival. Unfortunately, the ones who suffered were the ones who'd used their loaf and entered early. As for the recent actions of SAG, the idea of expecting a minimum of 15000 people to exit onto what is a major public arterial route out of the city, and then realising they would need to block this artery for specific periods on busy days, is ludicrous. I'm surprised that the Sheffield Commerce Groupmhasn't kicked up. Still, the idea of Sheffield being a major city is just as ludicrous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookieisdown Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I once met our silk! Some years ago. He's a big name. We are not counting the pennies here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Ronnie Starling said: Hold my (Jason) Beer QC representing us in the hearing https://5essexcourt.co.uk/our-people/profile/jason-beer-qc Interesting that SWFC have employed someone who has 'represented public authorities, police forces' etc. and was involved in the Hillsborough Inquests. Clearly having someone with this knowledge aids your defence, and hopefully demonstrates that neither him, or SWFC would be pressing this if they didn't think they'd be successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, Animis said: Interesting that SWFC have employed someone who has 'represented public authorities, police forces' etc. and was involved in the Hillsborough Inquests. Clearly having someone with this knowledge aids your defence, and hopefully demonstrates that neither him, or SWFC would be pressing this if they didn't think they'd be successful. He's a QC, they are money tarts, pay them enough and they will represent anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdan2003 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 He represented Graham Mackrell earlier this year https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jan/18/hillsborough-safety-officer-denies-negligence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdan2003 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) He does seem to have been part of some high profile cases - grainger inquiry, Stephen Lawrence Inquiry, the Shipman Inquiry, the Hutton Inquiry, the Mubarek Inquiry, the Billy Wright Inquiry, the Rosemary Nelson Inquiry, the Baha Mousa Inquiry, the Leveson Inquiry, the Al-Sweady Inquiry, the Azelle Rodney Inquiry and the Goddard Inquiry Edited December 18, 2019 by bigdan2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsie Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Can a mod change the title of this thread? We need an OMDT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl in Nottingham Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 35 minutes ago, prowl said: He's a QC, they are money tarts, pay them enough and they will represent anyone. Well it is their job isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Owl in Nottingham said: Well it is their job isn't it. Absolutely. Just making the point that employing a top QC doesn't give mean he approves of our case. He'd still represent someone he thought was totally wrong.(if the money was good enough) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl in Nottingham Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 minute ago, prowl said: Absolutely. Just making the point that employing a top QC doesn't give mean he approves of our case. He'd still represent someone he thought was totally wrong.(if the money was good enough) If we agree that both sides in any case should be allowed representation, then 50% of the time the QC must be employed by someone who is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonLeon Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 If it’s adjourned until April, June time next year as Staton is suggesting on Twitter. Isn’t that a bit of a reckless decision considering the possibility that attendances could start to grow and grow because of the teams current form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Bloody hell how difficult can be to sort out? Bring em round to Joker tnite and the Rotherham Owls will sort it out with them in less than an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Cromwell Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 On 16/12/2019 at 09:32, torryowl said: No idea on the legal side but I know a police Sargent who does games at hillsboro and when I complain to her about how syp police games she always answers that there is very little trouble so there policy works.....if they can put that before some bumbling magistrates they could well factor that into there judgement .. Just like the bloke who was asked why he was walking down the street banging a drum, and said it was to keep the elephants away. When it was pointed out that there were no elephants he said "effective isn't it". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castleford Owl Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, NeonLeon said: If it’s adjourned until April, June time next year as Staton is suggesting on Twitter. Isn’t that a bit of a reckless decision considering the possibility that attendances could start to grow and grow because of the teams current form. Yep, Current home capacity is around 28,000 I think. Doesn't give us much room should our current form continue towards the business end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsie Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Any ideas from which side this new evidence was presented from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Castleford Owl said: Yep, Current home capacity is around 28,000 I think. Doesn't give us much room should our current form continue towards the business end. Bloody hell black market tickets might get to reach the actual asking price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 We need Mark Lewis as our legal rep Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarquin Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: We need Mark Lewis as our legal rep With our luck we could get his brother Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 30 minutes ago, prowl said: Absolutely. Just making the point that employing a top QC doesn't give mean he approves of our case. He'd still represent someone he thought was totally wrong.(if the money was good enough) I wasn't suggesting he 'approved' of our case - rather him taking the appointment could suggest he is confident of success. Reputation and success plays a big part in fee earning potential moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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