Rhubarb n Custard Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Always have a soft spot for CC cos he got us so close. But in the latter half of his tenure he showed he was lacking the nouse to get a good team promoted. I think Bruce with the same core squad would have got us up. He'd have addressed our weaknesses and got the job done. Anyway in a nutshell... NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 CC running his gob again, sound the klaxon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, Harrysgame said: Listened to CC on talk sport chatting to Him White. Sounds like he is wanting a return to the UK, so question would you have him back here (obviously not now as Monk doing well? Personally, they say never go back; but was some of the most entertaining football I have seen in 30 years. I'd sooner slam my old man in the fridge door. One season wonder which went pear shaped at Wembley and never really got going again despite finishing 4th in a very very week league. Edited December 15, 2019 by Blue and white Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Nah. First season was great. Second season was dull but effective. Third season was garbage. I also get the impression that his influence went way beyond just being manager (the, at times, odd recruitment and didn't he have something to do with elev-8?). Dont hate him like some seemingly do, but you cant help but feel his time here did more damage than good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.. Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzlebeak Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 21 hours ago, Harrysgame said: Listened to CC on talk sport chatting to Him White. Sounds like he is wanting a return to the UK, so question would you have him back here (obviously not now as Monk doing well? Personally, they say never go back; but was some of the most entertaining football I have seen in 30 years. FFS! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) Is Him White the Spanish Jim White? Edited December 15, 2019 by Holmowl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHERSTATE Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 NOT THIS AGAAAAAAAIN!!!! The dust had almost settled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) He made an impact as he does everywhere but couldn’t keep it going. I think he lost his touch with most of the squad who are still here. Whilst 2015 was great I am enjoying the more pragmatic style of fast wingers, big centre halves and powerful strikers. I think that you don’t need to play as well to get a result because you’re just an awkward team to deal with. With a passing side you have to be on it 100% each week for it to churn out the wins. also, imagine if Garry Monk was on the radio touting himself for a job abroad. He’s shameless for it Edited December 15, 2019 by Bluesteel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 22 hours ago, Harrysgame said: Listened to CC on talk sport chatting to Him White. Sounds like he is wanting a return to the UK, so question would you have him back here (obviously not now as Monk doing well? Personally, they say never go back; but was some of the most entertaining football I have seen in 30 years. l o l no way . the club needs to stop up this season if we get 20points penalty or that man carlos will have played a big hand in seeing this club possibly go into the doldrums for many years as going down to league 1 with an embargo/administration having club asset stripped and finding that money from season tickets has already been spent with upto 5 year season tickets . I just don't get that we still have some supporters who don't see what damage carlos did ,all the signings after bannan,hooper,wallace lee,lees,hutch,westwood, were signed by carlos who had the final say , he at the time agreed to sign Rhodes costing club 17 million in wages and transfer fee and play a system what just wouldn't have suited Rhodes ,any decent manager signs players to fit into the system ,carlos didn't and also his training and fetching players back way too soon at least partly caused us to have upto 15 players out 2 years ago along with signing players with a history of injuries. anyway carlos thankfully is in the past ,its a shame that all that loot wasted weren't available to bruce at time and now monk as im sure they would make a much better job of it like we have started doing this past 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 2 hours ago, SiJ said: Nah. First season was great. Second season was dull but effective. Third season was garbage. I also get the impression that his influence went way beyond just being manager (the, at times, odd recruitment and didn't he have something to do with elev-8?). Dont hate him like some seemingly do, but you cant help but feel his time here did more damage than good. 'hate' is a very strong word. it would be difficult to find someone 'less impressed' with his tenure than I am, however I don't hate him. as I've posted before i'd like to see him in english football again, BUT NOT ANYWHERE NEAR US. he was good 'entertainment' but more so for pig supporters (in the long run) than ours. money spent, unbalanced squad, promotion failed (x3), play off's ballzed up (x2), over thought and over complex football, unfit and crippled players, and now massively overspent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuttyTeabags Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 21 hours ago, Westfield Owl said: As a club, I think we’re just starting to recover from the damage his spell here did. If we are punished by the EFL with a substantial points deduction this season, which results in relegation, you could argue that we’re still yet to recover from the gambles taken and opportunities missed between 2015-2017. I don't think it was him single handedly. Tbf I think he had some of the signings forced on him by Chansiri and his advisors. We're recovering from a naive chairman who surrounded himself with the wrong people and dug a deep financial hole. There is another twist or two in the tale I would imagine. CC did revert to type that is true, but it goes far deeper than just him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, DuttyTeabags said: I don't think it was him single handedly. Tbf I think he had some of the signings forced on him by Chansiri and his advisors. We're recovering from a naive chairman who surrounded himself with the wrong people and dug a deep financial hole. There is another twist or two in the tale I would imagine. CC did revert to type that is true, but it goes far deeper than just him... I agree on that too. coco didn't give himself the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysgame Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 6 hours ago, Blue and white said: I'd sooner slam my old man in the fridge door. One season wonder which went pear shaped at Wembley and never really got going again despite finishing 4th in a very very week league. As weak as this current league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel Fessi Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Two full seasons in charge and two playoff campaigns speaks for itself, should he have done better? Perhaps. Could it have gone a lot worse? Absolutely. I wouldn't want him back but I don't understand all the negativity around him, I'm 25 and like many of our younger fans haven't seen us in the top division or be a good side, ever. CC was the first manager in my lifetime who was at the helm when we were actually decent and so close to getting into the PL. Think back to your memories of us being a good team and I promise you'll thinking fondly of the players and managers of that era. His managerial style is like old school Mourinho, reluctant to use youth, same players every week, reliant on having a strong spine, favours high football IQ players and wants to play ball to feet 'attractive football'. CC's problem, again much like old school Mourinho was he was so ignorant to change things, ever. That's why we started so exceptionally well and went down hill over time, team's figured us out and we never changed anything. I still don't think I will ever forgive him for that playoff semi 2nd leg at home to Huddersfield, playing Lee RM and setting us up so negatively when that game and what would of been the play off final was there for the taking. interesting fact, he completed his UEFA pro license with Mourinho and they remain friends to this day! maybe explains some of the similarities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Lionel Fessi said: Two full seasons in charge and two playoff campaigns speaks for itself, should he have done better? Perhaps. Could it have gone a lot worse? Absolutely. I wouldn't want him back but I don't understand all the negativity around him, I'm 25 and like many of our younger fans haven't seen us in the top division or be a good side, ever. CC was the first manager in my lifetime who was at the helm when we were actually decent and so close to getting into the PL. Think back to your memories of us being a good team and I promise you'll thinking fondly of the players and managers of that era. His managerial style is like old school Mourinho, reluctant to use youth, same players every week, reliant on having a strong spine, favours high football IQ players and wants to play ball to feet 'attractive football'. CC's problem, again much like old school Mourinho was he was so ignorant to change things, ever. That's why we started so exceptionally well and went down hill over time, team's figured us out and we never changed anything. I still don't think I will ever forgive him for that playoff semi 2nd leg at home to Huddersfield, playing Lee RM and setting us up so negatively when that game and what would of been the play off final was there for the taking. interesting fact, he completed his UEFA pro license with Mourinho and they remain friends to this day! maybe explains some of the similarities. agree with most of this but it was the lack of a real physical spine that cost us the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 6th and 4th. Our best two finishes at this level since relegation from the Prem in 2000. The third season was a step too far as seems to be the case with a few Portuguese managers. I’ll always respect him TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N0rtherner Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 I still don't understand the title of his book. It's a no from me. Besides, we had one good season of results and neglect of everything else, and that became very apparent as time dragged on after that season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRUCE LEE Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 DAFUK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 On 14/12/2019 at 12:00, HOOTIE AND THE poo TU said: His first season was pretty awesome Then he started playing sideways and backwards Throughout his reign, people were saying we needed two new full backs, a centre half to replace Loovens, a midfield beast, a striker with pace and a winger with pace He never addressed these issues It's a no from me Did the same at Swansea execpt it was a matter of weeks not seasons. First season was so much fun to watch, why it changed who knows if it carried on just imagine we could be in the champions league by now 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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