NeonLeon Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Monk was high on my list to replace Bruce. One big reason was his ability to temper expectations. Rightly, or wrongly, his tactics and post match suggest he’s happy to settle for mid table. Making everything above that a bonus. Whether I agree with that stance or not it’s hard to see how he’s playing to get into the top 6 currently. Maybe if there’s some movement in January his aims will alter slightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, NeonLeon said: Monk was high on my list to replace Bruce. One big reason was his ability to temper expectations. Rightly, or wrongly, his tactics and post match suggest he’s happy to settle for mid table. Making everything above that a bonus. Whether I agree with that stance or not it’s hard to see how he’s playing to get into the top 6 currently. Maybe if there’s some movement in January his aims will alter slightly. Well he’s doing a damn good job at tempering expectations, that’s for sure. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Honestly, Monks game management is shocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Down South Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 34 minutes ago, McRightSide said: There wasn’t really any need for him to be involved tonight tbh Disagree, I thought he had a decent enough first half and showed some signs of working in tandem with Fletcher. If Monk goes with 442 then can’t see any other option as things stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonLeon Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, McRightSide said: Well he’s doing a damn good job at tempering expectations, that’s for sure. Before tonight I thought he was going to have a real go at cementing us in the top 6 before Christmas. I like him, but after tonight I genuinely think he’d snap your hands off for a mid table finish. We lack adventure and shut up shop so early, which is bizarre because it’s easily our weakest game plan. We look solider going at teams than we do sitting back to protect a lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 If the subs had come up to the mark Big Dave was pathetic in the roll he was brought on for No way a pen Rhodes was blowing He gambled taking Fletch if knowing we need him for Saturday Derby’s home record is very good reality check we ain’t going to win every game we are in touch with the top six and that’s all we could expect with Monk using other people’s players 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DobbinTheDonkey Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Maybe his remit is the same as Jos's. Stay up until we clear the wage bill the rebuild. His problem is this league is all a bit much of a muchness, if we show some ambition the playoffs are on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 43 minutes ago, vulva said: People forget that Fletcher and Harris looked injured. Monk wouldn’t have taken either off otherwise. We are an average team in an awful league. The Championship is absolute tripe this season. Worst it’s been for a long time. Some random outfit is going to fluke promotion through the playoffs. Leeds and West Brom will finish 20 points clear, and even they are nothing special. The team Carlos put together that got us to Wembley would be up by March in this division. Could say the Championship has been bobbar for ages. Still never take advantage of situations and see out games. Masters of our own demise most to the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 51 minutes ago, TodwickOwl said: We needed someone with pace to stay up top and hunt down Nuhui isn’t that with ten mins to go as a sole striker Like a crap version of Vardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfield Owl Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 32 minutes ago, Kopparberg said: Our season is OK overall - you can definitely see Monks style though now... it’s basically playing the percentages - which in the Championship works sometimes due to the lower quality That mentality towards tactics will get you enough points to avoid relegation. But very few teams get promoted playing that style anymore. It’s incredibly frustrating as I believe our squad is good enough to challenge this season. If only Monk would release the shackles a bit, stop going ultra-negative whenever we’ve got a lead to hold onto, I think we’d have a better chance of success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4evaowl Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, NeonLeon said: Before tonight I thought he was going to have a real go at cementing us in the top 6 before Christmas. I like him, but after tonight I genuinely think he’d snap your hands off for a mid table finish. We lack adventure and shut up shop so early, which is bizarre because it’s easily our weakest game plan. We look solider going at teams than we do sitting back to protect a lead. Listened to his post match comments and he seems to have missed that Derby were awful all game and were there for the taking. He seems bizarrely satisfied with a point from a game we should have really gone for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Murphy for Harris may be questionable, but it certainly isn’t a defensive substitution. Nuhiu for Rhodes was inevitable and imo an attempt to get a second. Has Nuhiu not got a track record of scoring late goals for us? Fletch seemed to be down to injury. He definitely limped off, so I am not sure Monk had the complete say. Despite all of that, Derby didn’t create a single clear cut chance. The pen was a joke decision, had that been given correctly we win the game. That would have been the end of an 8 match unbeaten run. Not everything can be blamed on the manager, I think he has done a good job and the players certainly think that. One final point, haven’t we got the oldest team in the league? Could that be why we keep conceding late goals, instead of it always being the managers fault? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Both strikers were absolutely shattered and signalled to the bench to come off. They had both stopped being effective. Rhodes short of games, Fletcher played too many. No problem with the Nuhiu and Luongo changes. The odd one for me was taking Harris off after 60 mins. Seemed to me like it was a plan they had from the start to let him only play 60 mins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomtheOwl95 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Think both Fletcher and Harris were for injury rather than tactical. Monk is working with what he has, unlikely to be able to do much in January. We're a point off the play offs, some people need to get a grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, TomtheOwl95 said: Monk is working with what he has Yep - effort wise we’re fine, we’re just that 10% short on quality and decision making... which may be influencing Monks tactics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, TomtheOwl95 said: Think both Fletcher and Harris were for injury rather than tactical. Monk is working with what he has, unlikely to be able to do much in January. We're a point off the play offs, some people need to get a grip. Coming from someone who said nuhiu was better than fletcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls79 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Reach as an attacking option offered zero once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, TomtheOwl95 said: We're a point off the play offs, some people need to get a grip. Should have been 3rd, threw it away. My grip has been got hold of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) "Welcome done monk" - Garry's brother? - is he taking over?? Edited December 11, 2019 by Bulldog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 16 minutes ago, oldishowl said: Both strikers were absolutely shattered and signalled to the bench to come off. They had both stopped being effective. Rhodes short of games, Fletcher played too many. No problem with the Nuhiu and Luongo changes. The odd one for me was taking Harris off after 60 mins. Seemed to me like it was a plan they had from the start to let him only play 60 mins Harris was replaced immediately after he'd broken from the lb position and stormed down the left wing to the edge of their box...Monk definitely playing a percentage game.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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