McRightSide Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 8 hours ago, SiJ said: You seriously going to sit there and suggest that Palmer isn't the best option at RB right now? Do us a favour and lay off the crack. Well Iorfa is the best option. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel Fessi Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 11 hours ago, TodwickOwl said: Absolute useless donkey Complete calamity in defence - that’s the third penalty he’s given away this year. Palmer back in now He was VERY unlucky to concede the penalty last night, after watching it again i think it's harsh. He had a decent game up until then, head loss after with the red card. Either way, that's the 3rd penalty he's conceded this season and not the first time he's been directly at fault for a goal. The debate between him/Palmer is the similar to the Hunt/Palmer from seasons ago. Odubajo is considerably better going forward but I think its apparent he's a liability defending(very reliant on his pace to get him out of trouble), whereas Palmer doesn't offer as much going forward but he's a more stable defender. Given how poor Murphy has been I think that's why Monk favours a more attacking RB down that side - but it's getting harder to ignore how poor Odubajo can be defensively. (I also think Hunt was a much better attacker and defender than Odubajo is). Palmer will get a run of games now and aslong as he's solid the place is his too lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ka58 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 2 hours ago, TodwickOwl said: Odubajo actually conceded us a goal last week by not marking tight enough on his defender - he’s cost us another yesterday and almost a point by getting sent off, another ten mins in that game and we would’ve been done And the week before at Charlton when he committed himself far too high up the pitch which cost us. Bloke must be responsible for at least half a dozen goals. Awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I've been to 2 away games this season and he's given 3 penalties away ffs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltbyowl Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Pen or No Pen hes poo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortlandOwl Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Conceded two penalties at PNE also. The list of fk ups goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, casbahowl said: Iorfa is literally head and shoulders above any other RB at the club. To suggest otherwise would indicate more than McRightside has substance abuse issues! Yeah, let's move our best CB. Good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, casbahowl said: Oh the absolute irony …… calling fans clueless and stupid whilst advocating the return of the woeful Palmer ahead of a back 4 of Iorfa, Borner, Lees & Fox You have negged every post mate in here that says bring Palmber back in whilst 99% of everyone in this thread thinks Odubajo isn’t good enough And how many more times - Iorfa is NOT an option at right back when he’s having season of his life at CB. Why would you shuffle the pack - even Monk has said he isn’t moving him. Is there anything upstairs with you?! by the way woeful Palmer has been part of a defence that is still In the top 5 defences in the league - must be terrible eh? Edited December 12, 2019 by TodwickOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 40 minutes ago, McRightSide said: Well Iorfa is the best option. As a right back, he has exactly the same issues as Odubajo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRUCE LEE Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Shambles of a footballer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarn owl Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 11 hours ago, Lawrie Madden said: He did nowt wrong there he was shielding the ball away Never a penalty 11 hours ago, TodwickOwl said: Give it a rest Arms all over him in box And leaning in - it’s not first time he’s done it and he’s got away with it in past He looks prone to doing it every single time - nightmare at the back, no confidence A fine example there of why there will always be a debate in football no matter how much VAR there is. 2 people, looking at the same incident, 2 different opinions. Got to love it. For me wasn't a pen, but if it was at the other end i would have been shouting for one. Just the way it is. As for Moses, was unlucky and clumsy at the same time, feel sorry for him as not as blatant as Preston pens, but still means he wracks up giving away another pen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, SiJ said: Yeah, let's move our best CB. Good idea. All 3 CH are on a par imo. Putting Iorfa at RB improves the overall 4. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 You have a bloke excelling at CB in Iorfa. Honestly, a bloke looking like a Premier League player in the future. You then have a competent enough RB in Palmer who can "do a job" and an absolutely liabiity in Moses. So, despite this, some of the resident brainstrust, have decided that the best thing to do is shove the best CB at the club right now to RB. What's the point? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N0rtherner Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Whenever someone says 'worst we ever had' I feel tempted to bring up Abdi or Urbi... In fairness, while I quickly reach max pulse every time the ball comes near Odubajo, he did an ok job of defending yesterday right up to a few situations before the penalty. Monk should have subbed him, that's on Odubajo for not being subbed, he tried the best he could but his defensive qualities are lacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Just now, SiJ said: You have a bloke excelling at CB in Iorfa. Honestly, a bloke looking like a Premier League player in the future. You then have a competent enough RB in Palmer who can "do a job" and an absolutely liabiity in Moses. So, despite this, some of the resident brainstrust, have decided that the best thing to do is shove the best CB at the club right now to RB. What's the point? He’s not the best CH at the club. At the moment we have 2 average full backs & 2 good CH. Move Iorfa to RB then the only average player is LB. The other 3 are good. 75% quality of back 4 instead of 50% is an improvement surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinowl Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I thought he was poor last night being honest, he is good going forward but away team managers must see a weakness there its stand out. He's constantly on the edge with being reckless and its costing us dearly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N0rtherner Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, gurujuan said: As a right back, he has exactly the same issues as Odubajo Didn't seem like it yesterday, the number of times he had to cover for Odubajo out on the right and even run forward down the right wing a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, The only way is S6 said: He’s not the best CH at the club. At the moment we have 2 average full backs & 2 good CH. Move Iorfa to RB then the only average player is LB. The other 3 are good. 75% quality of back 4 instead of 50% is an improvement surely? That’s not how it works though Iorfa pace at CB is getting us out of jail time and time again We have Borner and Lees there and we lose that completely and will be more open It’s not a case of shoving 3 good CB into a back four which is what everyone thinks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy logics Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 There's a reason the rest of the squad call him 'oh no Mo' Initially impressed with the signing, since seeing him play he is the weakest link in defence, even Fox has upped his game. He offers very little going forward either.... Palmer back just in a nick of time. Onwards and upwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, TodwickOwl said: That’s not how it works though Iorfa pace at CB is getting us out of jail time and time again We have Borner and Lees there and we lose that completely and will be more open It’s not a case of shoving 3 good CB into a back four which is what everyone thinks Disagree. You’re advocating an average RB in Palmer or Moses when you could have Iorfa there. His pace can still cover Lees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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