Blue and white Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said: Said it before, and will say it again. If DA had pulled the same stunts, there would be riots. We all want success, but it should not come at any cost. That largely depends on what form the success comes in. Say Red Bull came for us again, with their global business model, there unlimited wealth and their proven track record, success would be all but assured and I for would be very happy with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, Blue and white said: Fake companies eh He takes the term ‘happy clapper’ to a new level does this poster. I think he’s taken too many narcotics at northern soul nights over the years and it distorts his judgement on anything to do with Wednesday! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 The old arguments that we came close to going up a couple of times, that DC has spent loads of money or he's not a bad bloke etc etc are all largely redundant now. Like many, I gave him the benefit of the doubt however, he's been naive at best and incompetent on so many fronts that it's impossible to back him any longer. For every step forward, we take several back. The best we can hope for is an amicable separation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Morepork said: The old arguments that we came close to going up a couple of times, that DC has spent loads of money or he's not a bad bloke etc etc are all largely redundant now. Like many, I gave him the benefit of the doubt however, he's been naive at best and incompetent on so many fronts that it's impossible to back him any longer. For every step forward, we take several back. The best we can hope for is an amicable separation. The best we can hope for is to get rid of snowflakes like yourself...you wouldn't have lasted ten minutes in the 70's 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morepork Posted December 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, daveyboy66 said: The best we can hope for is to get rid of snowflakes like yourself...you wouldn't have lasted ten minutes in the 70's And yet somehow I did.....and without becoming a moaning old C**t. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, daveyboy66 said: The best we can hope for is to get rid of snowflakes like yourself...you wouldn't have lasted ten minutes in the 70's Thats great. We arent in the 70's though Just to add, 'snowflake' ranks along with terms such as 'smashed it' and 'banter' for being just poo . Edited December 3, 2019 by billyblack Addition 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Blue and white said: That largely depends on what form the success comes in. Say Red Bull came for us again, with their global business model, there unlimited wealth and their proven track record, success would be all but assured and I for would be very happy with that. That isn't what we have now though. Currently we are spending the most money in our history, breaking EFL rules left right and centre, have half the same team we had 4 years ago, and we rip off fans to watch us. The killer is we are no closer to promotion, and face an uncertain future due to EFL investigations and points deductions. Not good, and still not seeing a long term plan to address the issues. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Owl 2 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said: Said it before, and will say it again. If DA had pulled the same stunts, there would be riots. We all want success, but it should not come at any cost. Geoff Sheard.... Fake bank accounts 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Theboylangers Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Just read through the whole thread. I genuinely don't know what to make of it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, billyblack said: Thats great. We arent in the 70's though Just to add, 'snowflake' ranks along with terms such as 'smashed it' and 'banter' for being just poo . Made my day that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Theboylangers said: Just read through the whole thread. I genuinely don't know what to make of it all. Not good, whether you are a blind Apologist or a realist. Nothing positive can come of it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last_Great_Hope Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 8 hours ago, Animis said: I'm not sure this is true. The lawyers who managed the conveyancing between the 'two' parties, would register the sale transaction through a TR1 form they would complete and submit to the Land Registry on the behalf of DC as owner of his new company (the purchaser) at the time of the sale, which was in 2019, not 2018 as the 'sale' was only recorded as legal under Heads of Terms in the 2017/18 accounts, which is apparently acceptable practice under accountancy rules. I expect the SDLT would also follow the same process. SDLT is more complicated. What happens when you have contracts for sale of land that involves future considerations? Or payments over a period of time? Or contracts that are 80% completed in 2017 but only 100% completed in 2019? When is the tax due? When the contract (or Option Agreement) is signed, or when the last payment is made? Would also add that the TR1 will also probably be accompanied by a Lease from the new "owner" to the club. Commercial Property transactions can be complicated, and the SDLT Rules can also be very complicated. Just to give you an example - the Purchase of a player attracts VAT. The vast majority of transfer agreements have the transfer to be paid at certain dates in the future (usually linked to TV income dates which are paid throughout the season rather than all at once). But the VAT is due, in full, once the Transfer agreement comes into effect, whether you have the money upfront or in stages. Its one of the reasons Leicester wanted £80m up front from Man U for Maguire rather than a staged payment. Much better for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 28 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said: Fake taxis. Fake energy drinks. Sponsoring ourselves. Buying our own ground. Is anybody really going to be shocked when this ends in tears ? Creative accounting has it's place , but its no substitute for running a club properly. Whooooooooooooooooooa, just hold on there fella, pop take's time to develop, don't want fizz kids on ere getting all hyper, need's to be a chill lilt with a twang, cars, Dave's cut and shut, have produced but rejected by Mr Chansiri, and no the wheels dint fall off. It's all rosy in our garden. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Being a Sheffield Wednesday fan in the 70's is no different than being one now ... Still supporting a club wrapped up in secrets and mystery.... You'll never get bored being a Wednesdayite.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Blue and white said: Takes a bloody Leeds fan to spot what some of our own fans can't. Hopefully it will be the end of his amateurish running of our club. Least he did it without libelling the bugger tho eh ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, daleblue said: Whooooooooooooooooooa, just hold on there fella, pop take's time to develop, don't want fizz kids on ere getting all hyper, need's to be a chill lilt with a twang, cars, Dave's cut and shut, have produced but rejected by Mr Chansiri, and no the wheels dint fall off. It's all rosy in our garden. It's that comical. How some people think our business practices aren't an issue, is scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 30 minutes ago, Morepork said: The old arguments that we came close to going up a couple of times, that DC has spent loads of money or he's not a bad bloke etc etc are all largely redundant now. Like many, I gave him the benefit of the doubt however, he's been naive at best and incompetent on so many fronts that it's impossible to back him any longer. For every step forward, we take several back. The best we can hope for is an amicable separation. And then what?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 The fuckingstate of this thread..... Love it you set of Wednesdaybastards!! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, bradowl said: And then what?? I can't predict that, guessing what tomorrow will bring is hard enough for us.....remarkable given the importance of our short, medium and long term plans......which as it turned out all appeared to be short term and based on nothing more than a dice role gamble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said: That isn't what we have now though. Currently we are spending the most money in our history, breaking EFL rules left right and centre, have half the same team we had 4 years ago, and we rip off fans to watch us. The killer is we are no closer to promotion, and face an uncertain future due to EFL investigations and points deductions. Not good, and still not seeing a long term plan to address the issues. It's all about know how and sadly we have a nice owner with little idea of what he is doing, sadly that has disaster written all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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