Bouncing Owl Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 35 minutes ago, wakefieldinleed1 said: Werent paid pal but to be fair the club the past two years have put massive money into local charities. have your club done the same Don’t come on here on the morale high ground. Your club was run ridiculously poorly under Ridsdale and you went into administration shortly afterwards shafting a number of local businesses. You’ve also been owned by Cellino who was a total cowboy. Wasn’t he snorting coke in the ground on a regular basis? I totally ‘get’ your current owners have run the club correctly by selling players, I.e. Wood, Roofe, Jansson and Vieira and reinvesting in quality up and coming players and staying within FFP limits, however there’s some hypocrisy in your posting. Have a think about how your club has behaved over your recent history before commenting on other clubs affairs? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) 55 minutes ago, BRUCE LEE said: The EFL exec and board consists of a chairman that is from Liverpool, worked for Liverpool and supports Liverpool With Championship reps that work directly for Play off rivals Derby and Bristol There’s more chance of me having an orgy with Megan Fox and Michelle Keegan under the tree on Christmas morning than us just getting a fine based on a settlement What time do you want us round on Chrissy Morning Brucie? I'll bring the snowballs n Mince pies ..... Edited December 3, 2019 by OWLERTON GHOST 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, wakefieldinleed1 said: Leeds fan in peace looking as an outsider. it looks pretty obvious what’s happened 1 you failed P&L and got an embargo 2 the owner was trying all sorts of creative accounting with all these silly schemes, ie plaques etc etc didnt work 3 you again went way ten limit of £39m 4 you were going to get another embargo and maybe points 5 the chairmen the see derby and villa selling the ground. 6 tries back dating it, basically cheating with the sale date. 7 FL have seen through this and be very surprised if you didn’t get points. youve over spent and then tried to get away with it. The Auditors have behaved badly, not illegally but I’d question there take on the accounts ( certainly the timing) it’s not accounting rules you are getting done for, but the football league rules. youve broken them and will be penalties. shame because the owner isn’t a bad guy. Just can’t run a business Congratulations on your Club’s 10th Birthday! Whilst DC has his faults he is no Ridsdale. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 15 minutes ago, billyblack said: Apart from selling something one year and then claiming it another year is also worrying. Apparently. If it happened etc Bit again zero evedence in public domain to say it was in wrong year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kameron Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, wellbeaten-the-owl said: Bit again zero evedence in public domain to say it was in wrong year. Land registry confirms it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsHall Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Leeds. Leeds FFS. UTO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ferkorf Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, BRUCE LEE said: The EFL exec and board consists of a chairman that is from Liverpool, worked for Liverpool and supports Liverpool With Championship reps that work directly for Play off rivals Derby and Bristol There’s more chance of me having an orgy with Megan Fox and Michelle Keegan under the tree on Christmas morning than us just getting a fine based on a settlement What about Morgan Fox and Kevin Keegan instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Mort AMB Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 35 minutes ago, sherlyegg said: Think I best start getting me 'Great Escape' T- shirts printed. We need to teach the young' uns the tune. This is Sheffield Wednesday, we'll end up in Colditz trying to build that glider FFS. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Just now, Kameron said: Land registry confirms it. Not in the slightest. Not going to explain again as it's all in the EFL statement thread but the land registry means jack all from accounting perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Kameron said: Land registry confirms it. It only get recorded at the LR once the payment is made. The 17/18 accounts show the transaction but only needs to be a heads of agreement, which is binding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Fake taxis. Fake energy drinks. Sponsoring ourselves. Buying our own ground. Is anybody really going to be shocked when this ends in tears ? Creative accounting has it's place , but its no substitute for running a club properly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Shutt is God Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 The whole punishment system really isn't what it says on the tin is it. P&S rules were made to supposedly protect clubs from spending more than they could afford and put themselves in danger of administration (which was happening on a regular basis). So if a club does break these rules then they are punished.....with a massive fine or points deduction which leads to massive loss of earnings. You literally couldn't make it up could you, teams who are in financial trouble (even if they arent because the owner has money) are punished by putting them in more financial trouble. The only people who will truly suffer are the fans when their club is put back years by a points deduction, relegation or god forbid goes out of business. If the EFL want to enforce rules why dont they make the rules that the owner is the one punished rather than the club, players get punished independently but owners dont. The football world has created this whole mess by allowing a totally uneven playing field where teams with parachute payments can afford way bigger wages and transfer fees. How are teams who have been out of the premier league a long time like ourselves, Forest and Leeds meant to compete? It can be done as United have shown but that's more of an anomaly than the norm. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kameron Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, wellbeaten-the-owl said: Not in the slightest. Not going to explain again as it's all in the EFL statement thread but the land registry means jack all from accounting perspective It means everything, the registry date it's self means nothing I'll give you that but the sale date is key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, RichSheffWeds said: Even though we may have complied with accounting norms and professional auditors signed off the accounts, the EFL will want to make an example of us. They are clueless but can’t do much about that. This season is a write off. Get ready for 12-15 point deduction. Monk will have to avoid relegation but he will get time to prepare for next season, off load more deadwood/high earners, hopefully bring in 3-4 of his own players and have a really go at it next season. You need patience in bucket loads as a Wednesday fan unfortunately. 12 to 15 points won't be far off I reckon, if it's a silly amount like 25+ guaranteeing relegation, games between now and end of season might be disrupted with fans demonstrating against EFL. Who's up for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said: Fake taxis. Fake energy drinks. Sponsoring ourselves. Buying our own ground. Is anybody really going to be shocked when this ends in tears ? Creative accounting has it's place , but its no substitute for running a club properly. You may as well talk to yourself fella because there are many on here who think he hasn't done or can't do any wrong and that's very very worrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 25 minutes ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: What time do you want us round on Chrissy Morning Brucie? I'll bring the snowballs n Mince pies ..... Knowing our luck It'll be Edward Fox and Kevin Keegan.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, Blue and white said: You may as well talk to yourself fella because there are many on here who think he hasn't done or can't do any wrong and that's very very worrying. Fake fans eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, daveyboy66 said: Fake fans eh? Fake Taxis eh.. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, Blue and white said: You may as well talk to yourself fella because there are many on here who think he hasn't done or can't do any wrong and that's very very worrying. Said it before, and will say it again. If DA had pulled the same stunts, there would be riots. We all want success, but it should not come at any cost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, daveyboy66 said: Fake fans eh? Fake companies eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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