Birley Owl 1867 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 8 hours ago, 2roland2 said: iorfa I would flat out disagree he was playing much better under bruce than he is now Are you blind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 8 hours ago, 2roland2 said: fox as kept steady, his real improvement came when brunch arrived., Fletcher is no better or worse, he supfront on his own and always does well, I would actually argue though possibly the last 3/4 games he isn’t as sharp. iorfa I would flat out disagree he was playing much better under bruce than he is now That last sentence is probably the stupidest I have seen on Owlstalk and I have witnessed some dross congratulations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 8 hours ago, 2roland2 said: fox as kept steady, his real improvement came when brunch arrived., Fletcher is no better or worse, he supfront on his own and always does well, I would actually argue though possibly the last 3/4 games he isn’t as sharp. iorfa I would flat out disagree he was playing much better under bruce than he is now personally think Iorfa has looked a quality player the whole time he has been a Wednesday player. Looks a real bargain buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 On 29/11/2019 at 02:06, 2roland2 said: Keep hearing this give him a couple of transfer windows, does anyone understand the mess we are in right now? Fans on here seem to think we can just rip the squad apart and start again, what with and how under these restrictions and sanctions to come? he’s going. To have to get the best out of what we have and evidence so far isn’t pointing to positive outcomes Loads are out of contract again in next 2 summers though so that's the chance to make changes. Plus hes doing ok performance wise just need to stop these crazy lapses in concentration and improve our final ball/finishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scilly owl Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Don’t need to be told that... he’s only been with us for five minutes, hasn’t had pre season or a transfer window yet and he’s doing fine.... I’m behind him all the way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 43 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Are you blind? You think Iorfa was playing better under Bruce than currently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 44 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Are you blind? Have I totally misunderstood this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 What I’d like to know, who was it who decided we should go down the route of a lone striker, flanked by 2 wingers? If it was Bruce, and it probably was, as recruitment decisions seemed to be made by his team, then what the hell was he thinking? How did he think we would thrive with a non scoring centre forward, flanked by 2 non scoring wingers? Unless of course, he genuinely believed we could lure Samatta. Without such a player as the focal point of the attack, this system will never work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, DobbinTheDonkey said: Monk plays it similar to CC's second season, with a different formation Keep it tight, up the tempo in the second half. Don't over exert yourself. correct. but they don't see it that way as they're not singing 'MONK HAD A DREAM' to keep their mind off it. it can also be compared to the groundwork that gray did. it's called building a team, it's NOT a computer game version where you balls up and start again 'cos you didn't like the outcome. Edited November 30, 2019 by dorian gray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, gurujuan said: What I’d like to know, who was it who decided we should go down the route of a lone striker, flanked by 2 wingers? If it was Bruce, and it probably was, as recruitment decisions seemed to be made by his team, then what the hell was he thinking? How did he think we would thrive with a non scoring centre forward, flanked by 2 non scoring wingers? Unless of course, he genuinely believed we could lure Samatta. Without such a player as the focal point of the attack, this system will never work the weak m/f decided it, until that is replaced we struggle to throw 2 up, except in the 'LAST 20 MINS'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 minute ago, dorian gray said: the weak m/f decided it, until that is replaced we struggle to throw 2 up, except in the 'LAST 20 MINS'. But it’s a bit Catch 22, without the movement ahead, there is nothing for the midfield to aim at. In Bannan and Luongo, we have two players who can pick a pass, but with a static centre forward, and two wingers who rarely leave their station, who can they pass to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A E Neuman NYowl Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Monks doing OK we are better than we were at this time last season. Having said that he has the following players at his disposal that were not available at this time last year, Iorfa, Borner, Odubaju, Luongo, Murphy, Harris and Lees back from injury, the only loss is Hector. So I would expect us to be stronger. Positives are that other teams are not running through midfield unopposed. Negatives Not setup to score enough goals. Like last season we look poor from dead ball situations and this needs sorting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Said this is another thread, we've setup not to lose - instead of setting up to win. We're playing Charlton who are struggling and have numerous injuries today - go and f*cking hit them with an attacking side. Play Nuhui, Play Fletcher, Play Forestieri - we'll win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 15 hours ago, 2roland2 said: Ok for arguments sake, which players have improved so far under Monk since he came in? i know I’m struggling to answer that but I’m open to suggestions How much room for improvement is there?...Maybe the players have hit their ceiling..Only new blood can probably improve it to any real degree, and Monk may not have that option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 32 minutes ago, 2roland2 said: yes I do , but unlike what hugeowl is trying to insinuate, I’m not saying he’s playing badly, I just think he looked better under bruce. He’s still playing well. i was just answering hugeowls comments in response to who he thought had improved under monk. But as usual he just looks for digs rather than discussions like a grown up If you don’t acknowledge Iorfa has improved this season then maybe football is not the game for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 2 hours ago, coopswfc76 said: Have I totally misunderstood this? Roland ie claiming iorfa was better under Bruce 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 41 minutes ago, 2roland2 said: so you think he is playing better now than last season? I’m not sure if 99% of this site have even watched a game this season, he’s playing well but he was playing brilliantly under bruce. The reply was to who has monk improved so far but as usual the bandwagon jumped on and try to make out I’m saying he’s no good which as usual is absolute testicles He is playing miles better than last year. Like I said you must be blind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 3 hours ago, coopswfc76 said: You think Iorfa was playing better under Bruce than currently? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZicoSterland2 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 On 29/11/2019 at 02:06, 2roland2 said: Keep hearing this give him a couple of transfer windows, does anyone understand the mess we are in right now? Fans on here seem to think we can just rip the squad apart and start again, what with and how under these restrictions and sanctions to come? he’s going. To have to get the best out of what we have and evidence so far isn’t pointing to positive outcomes Top half of the ieague with a squad that has barely changed over the last couple of years and lacks an out and out goal scorer. Think he isnt doing a bad job. Monk is his own man and I believe he will get us in or around the playoffs this year. No team has embarrassed us all season and given a bit of luck we could have been 7 or 8 points better off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 16 hours ago, 2roland2 said: go on it’s ok, you can admit you like tryi g to argue with me just for the sake of it. Everyone with even an ounce of common sense knows we have sanctions coming, at best we can tspend because we are on the cusp of the rules limits. That’s if by so,e million to one odds we escape punishment....... never seen anyone argue as much for the sake of it go and look in the nearest mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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