Bouncing Owl Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: He was. I am yet to see evidence he is anywhere near that now. However I agree he needs a run so we can fully assess and get rid in January if he isn't good enough anymore. He scored when he came on against Swansea. How good was he against Norwich away at the end of the season? He surely must come in for Jacob Murphy. Miles better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: He was. I am yet to see evidence he is anywhere near that now. However I agree he needs a run so we can fully assess and get rid in January if he isn't good enough anymore. Agreed - FF is in his last 5 months at SWFC. It's unlikely we will offer him a new deal, or if we did it will be on substantially less than he's on at present. If FF plays a role we know he can over the next few weeks, at least we could use him to achieve a decent finish this season, and he would walk away with our thanks. If he doesn't, as you say, we should be looking to flog in January, albeit we may have consider around £200k, but at least we'd take his £30k/week or so off the debt of the 2019/20 accounts, which could be important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 If FF were to start wide left in a 433 for the rest of the season he would probably score more goals than the rest of the 3 wide options put together. The trade off is probably fewer assists and less defensive work but the other choices are not tearing full backs apart at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigthinrob Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 17 hours ago, handworth52 said: been today one thing im noticing is the noise levels at away games going down and down and the total lack of comments on here tonight and other days , its like we have fallen totally flat and completely losing interest. I think we all realise that we are a mid table team , we have nothing up top . 1 up front is almost pointless fletcher is isolated . I thought the Wednesday fans never stopped yesterday, especially in the second half. I was about a third of the way up about 30 in from the edge & it was excellent, pretty much non stop!! Hardly miss any away games & I even remarked I thought this was one of the best for a while re support! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, bigthinrob said: I thought the Wednesday fans never stopped yesterday, especially in the second half. I was about a third of the way up about 30 in from the edge & it was excellent, pretty much non stop!! Hardly miss any away games & I even remarked I thought this was one of the best for a while re support! agreed. In the second half especially it was very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Can’t understand why plenty of posters on here say it’s a poor league. Which were the years when the championship was so much stronger than it is this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland Owl Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 would go with this Westwood Moses, Lorfa, Borner, Fox Hutchinson Reach, Bannan, Luongo, FF Dave have a feeling Fletch will be injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigthinrob Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, The Horse said: How come I and others had no problems accessing the site but loads of others didn't? Is it a mobile / desktop thing? I tried to log on in a hotel bar before the match in West Brom, both on 4G & Wifi & repeatedly wouldn't have it and at times last night when back home also wouldn't have it at times. First thing this morning wouldn't have it either & then mysteriously did. Both Mobile & Laptop not having it at certain times. Had to resort to Twitter to read the inevitable demented rantings of disillusioned 'fans' screaming for Monk to be sacked, Westwood to be strung up at the bottom of Fargate, & Palmer to be forced to have electric shock treatment for every abysmal display we have had to endure for the last 3 years. I got panicky withdrawal symptoms not getting my 'meltdown' kick on 'negtalk' following the latest set back, but thankfully i could sleep peacefully having had my adequate fill of wrist slitting neggo's courtesy of Twitter. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibbo48 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Bloody hell. I’ve only just got back on since lunchtime yesterday. Not a chance on either IPhone or IPad nor our lasses. I was going frantic till 88mins yesterday then after I’d calmed down was quietly relieved that I wasn’t going to have put myself through an evening of doom and gloom PS Neil, Sheffield History was down too but I think no one else has noticed. Give it a week or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Bouncing Owl said: The squad is easily good enough to get top 6 in a poor league. On past reputations maybe but most these players are 3 seasons past their best. Mid table team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkfieldowl14 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 is it amazing that just because Owlstalk goes into technical meltdown for a few hours,Every poster on here seems to be suffering the cold turkey syndrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl 44 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 4 hours ago, bigdan2003 said: Must admit I’m struggling to find the enthusiasm at the minute. Dunno what it is. I’ve supported this club through thin and thinner, seen much worse Wednesday teams than this one. But I just can’t be arsed with the club or these players right now. Same. Didn't even get excited when we equalised yesterday cos I somehow knew we'd find a way to balls it up. Like others have said and like what was discussed in the 'Atmosphere' thread, I think it's a combination of the shadow hanging over the club, the late giveaways and watching the same players for too long. I'm looking forward to Wednesday night though. Just wish we could absolutely thrash somebody and that would do everybody the power of good. I've stopped looking at the league table though. Don't see the point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 6 hours ago, asteener1867 said: Its not a lack of enthusiasm for me, but these last minute f.ook ups are like being hit over the head with a dead fish every week. I know going into the last few minutes you fear it, but its become a sort of set in stone expectation now. We played well, we deserved more ..yadayadayada...but we didn't get it again..One goal is never going to be enough for us, we need to attack even when ahead or level, and we need to FINISH teams off, chance after chance goes begging every week ffs! surely it has to turn sometime? Too tippy happy in front of goal.. Have a shot FFS.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 I think we've got the wrong Murphy to be honest .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando17 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 6 hours ago, Shetland Owl said: would go with this Westwood Moses, Lorfa, Borner, Fox Hutchinson Reach, Bannan, Luongo, FF Dave have a feeling Fletch will be injured not Nuhui... if Winnall fit give him a run...stop the predictability.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando17 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: I think we've got the wrong Murphy to be honest .... deffo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando17 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 6 hours ago, nilsson said: Can’t understand why plenty of posters on here say it’s a poor league. Which were the years when the championship was so much stronger than it is this year? last year..Utd and Norwich.. year before Wolves year before Newcastle ..this season nobody anywhere near the above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Brando17 said: last year..Utd and Norwich.. year before Wolves year before Newcastle ..this season nobody anywhere near the above Wolves were class but I’d say Leeds and West Brom this year are on a par with Norwich and Utd last year. And are we taking the league as a whole or just the top teams? We’ve already lost to QPR, Blackburn and Hull this year who are all lower midtable but still decent sides who were capable of beating us. The first year under Carlos a very average Ipswich side finished 7th so I’m not having the league was stronger then than it is now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Nick Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Soooo…..the OP has a point, we cannot recover the past, and alter it, all we can do is "seek & destroy." What's so special about Birmingham? West Bromwich Albion knew they'd been in a fight, and were probably expecting a draw. Birmingham? Who knows, other than that the match will probably be decided in the last 5 or 10 minutes. SWFC doesn't get "blown away", SWFC gives it away, in the closing minutes. Monk has to figure out why and how this happens, glad it ain't my job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Next 4 are Birmingham, Charlton, Brentford and Derby. Four teams that are all within two points of us in the table. Not easy games but they’re all very winnable. We could do finding some form now and getting some positivity back in the club 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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