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49 minutes ago, Mick De Lyons said:

So he can walk away as soon as possible. I think he would attach things to a deal where he will make some decent money if we ever get back to the Premiership. I think Milan has a similar deal when he sold to Chansiri. For me it's not his stable industry, so he doesn't know a great deal about it. Hence the advisors and the mistakes

Tell me about his stable industry. (although I'm looking forward to @OWLERTON GHOST's  reply more than anything)

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10 minutes ago, Sergeant Tibbs said:

And the hits just keep on coming

 

:Chansiri:

It's amazing how you think this man will stay around and not cut a deal like I suggest. He won't be around for the long term, despite what he say's in public. If he wants to exit over the next three years or so, he's no option. But I suppose it's just easier to come out with one liners hey lol

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7 hours ago, room0035 said:

For me this excuse doesn't wash anymore - use the excuse the first year but he has been here 4 years and is still making such basic mistakes month in month out.

 

He simply has not learnt anything from the last 4 years other than taking a business losing £5m a year and turning it into a business losing £20m a year that has not moved forward, the players here when he arrive are in large still here and he has saddled us with debt all be it underwritten by him due to years of incompetent recruitment and retention policy.

 

There is no one else to blame for this than the man in charge.

 

If DC continues to do it his way, in a few years we will be relegated, the fan base will dwindle and the club will only go one way and that's down the league until someone comes in with an ounce of business ability to run the club the way it should have been run from day one.

 

What business is DC in again as I am wondering if he is in fact a businessman at all and in fact it is his family running his businesses.

He’s the only son not on the tuf board. I think we know why. 

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1 minute ago, Mick De Lyons said:

It's amazing how you think this man will stay around and not cut a deal like I suggest. He won't be around for the long term, despite what he say's in public. If he wants to exist over the next three years for so, he's no option. But I suppose it's just easier to come out with one liners hey lol

I don't profess to know, and I struggle to take seriously those who do. I'm sure he'll have to take a loss, but most football clubs run at a loss on a daily basis. I don't THINK it will happen in the near future - but you are convinced, just like Dotty was convinced that Rowett was out next manager. Although I'm pretty sure the earth is round.

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1 minute ago, Sergeant Tibbs said:

I don't profess to know, and I struggle to take seriously those who do. I'm sure he'll have to take a loss, but most football clubs run at a loss on a daily basis. I don't THINK it will happen in the near future - but you are convinced, just like Dotty was convinced that Rowett was out next manager. Although I'm pretty sure the earth is round.

I just think he'll have no option how the club stands and as the market place is at the moment. The only way is he stays for the long term. I personally can't see that happening.

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2 minutes ago, Mick De Lyons said:

Inheritance i believe, though his brother apparently runs it. His father could still be alive. I think his father and uncle started the business.

So he's not  so much a businessman. He's a benefactor. Money and power, a dangerous combination, you'll know this if you watched Dr No.

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15 minutes ago, Sergeant Tibbs said:

So he's not  so much a businessman. He's a benefactor. Money and power, a dangerous combination, you'll know this if you watched Dr No.

 

I felt Mandy pull me up give me the kiss of life 
Just like the girl in Dr. No no, no, no

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9 hours ago, Mick De Lyons said:

What is your opinion ?

 

It's my opinion that you are angry/upset/annoyed/frusted (delete as applicable), to whatever extent that might be, and are looking for a scapegoat. It's very simple and very easy to point the finger therefore at the Chairman. It's my opinion you are looking for answers in all the wrong places. Has DC made mistakes with regards to the finances? Yes he has, but you have to ask why he has made the particular mistakes he has made, and the answer is quite clearly FFP (P&S).

 

Until such times as either the governance or complience of FFP (P&S) has equal footing with the PL, or until such times as the almost decade old financial figures are corrected to reflect what now needs to be spent in the Championship to merely get by, you will find a lot of clubs trying what ever methods they can to bend the rules without breaking them. When FFP was introduced, top-end Championship players cost around £5M, on probably £15K per week. Now it's £20M and £40K a week just to get some interested. This is way beyond the means of most EFL clubs.

 

Even clubs with the luxury of the failure payments called Parachute payments would stuggle, but we all know that the money they receive never makes it to the players they had in the PL, because they've been already sold. So now they can lose £39M over 3 seasons, plus an additional £25M per season they were in the PL (so over 3 years they can lose £114M vs our £39M), plus the Parachute payments plus the revenue for the sale of the "big players" after relegation.

 

It's that extremely level playing field which makes Chairman attempt parity, using any method they can. If this was your business, what would you do as you have offered no alternatives?

 

Blaming someone is easy. Working out why they have done it in the first place, and finding a resolution to that is much more complex.

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, toppOwl said:

I never know whether people who start threads like this and add speculation, half truths and gossip as fact are SU fans or mentally ill (or both).

..or just Wednesday fans with an agenda. All I know is that this sort of thread helps no-one except the pathetic OP who will be counting the number of pages he gets in his thread. Shame on me for contributing to his or her ego trip.

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1 minute ago, marble said:

..or just Wednesday fans with an agenda. All I know is that this sort of thread helps no-one except the pathetic OP who will be counting the number of pages he gets in his thread. Shame on me for contributing to his or her ego trip.

Don’t be too hard on yersen, nobdy’s taking it seriously.

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