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24 minutes ago, S36 OWL said:

 

It's this obsession with getting to the premier league. For what ? Just to scrap around trying to finish fourth bottom so you can fill your pockets with more money the following season. 

 

That's what Sky have done to football. It's all about money , not football. 


pigs are hating every minute!

 

Sky have improved it - chairmen have made it worse 

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40 minutes ago, Blue and white said:

That's not going to happen any time soon, I dare he'd sell up but he isn't going to give us away.

I know he"s stubborn!

Eventually he will stop throwing good money after bad. You can only receive what the market value is and at the moment we are worth spaff all due to ongoing heavy losses.

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Wednesday fans will end up paying for it

 

£200 to go and watch a game,   £20 for a beer at the ground,   £15 for a bottle of pop without the top on of course.    and £8 for a bar of chocolate

 

and we are still watching for d-taxis 

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35 minutes ago, Belfast Owl 2 said:

 

Hate to be blunt.

 

But with that attitude we don't need you.

 

Go away and support someone else or grow a set.

 

 

The way you say ‘we don’t need you’ and ‘grow a set’, it’s like you’re the one that’s going out on the field for Wednesday.

 

Can you enlighten me what exactly it is that you’re doing that ‘we need’ compared to torres?

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DC seems to follow Macbeth’s ‘things bad begun make strong themselves by ill’.

Didn’t end up too well for the Thane Of Cawdor.

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6 minutes ago, torres said:


pigs are hating every minute!

 

Sky have improved it - chairmen have made it worse 

 

This.

 

Sky gave football more money.

 

Football spunked it up the wall.

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8 minutes ago, nilsson said:


And that no money has actually changed hands.
 

Wednesday have in the accounts a debt of £60 million owing from Chansiri’s other company.

Only Chansiri could negotiate with himself a price he cant meet. 

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36 minutes ago, Belfast Owl 2 said:

 

Ive said it a million times and like a coward you ignore me.

 

How can you post that after being mates with a fraud? He wanted to take over with money from a fake bank.

 

Once you have the balls to answer me you can discuss Chansiri


Maybe he’s ignoring you because it has absolutely no relevance to the EFL statement?

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The championship is do or die - some exceptions like the pigs and Huddersfield who managed to go up by not winning any of their play off games (it still hurts).

 

Someone posted the graph of clubs' expenditure and debt for the 2017/18 season. We we're only 7th I think, with our £35m, with Wolves top with £80m I think - I mean £80m in one season - now that was sheitt or bust. 

 

They are now lorded by sky et al as a successful provincial club 'challenging the top clubs in the PL. If, they hadn't gone up they would have been faced with a 9-point deduction last season and a squad over hall. Small margins and if everyone, including the EFL and PL are honest, this is totally unsustainable. Both the EFL and PL have to get an agreement to cap the expenditure and debt levels that prevents promotion to the PL if clubs breach the EFL P&S rules. The current rules are reactive, and they need to be pro-active with the consent of the PL.

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3 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said:

 

This.

 

Sky gave football more money.

 

Football spunked it up the wall.


Totally agree.

 

Other countries must laugh at us.

 

As a sport, football clubs in our country get more than any other - what do clubs choose to do?

 

Share the wealth with the supporters? No, they charge more than any other country. 
 

Surely they must pump it into youth football and have a huge percent of English players in the top league  - no, they waste it on second rate foreigners 

 

Surely clubs don’t waste the money on over paying has been footballers in the lower divisions and filling agents pockets - step forward our club!!

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13 minutes ago, nilsson said:


And that no money has actually changed hands.
 

Wednesday have in the accounts a debt of £60 million owing from Chansiri’s other company.


it’s pretty simple really if you understand how business and accounting works, you will probably find it shows in the next set of accounts that an on paper set of transactions that £60m of what SWFC owe Chansiri (directors loans) is repaid and £60m is received for the stadium, no actual cash will change hands. 

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2 hours ago, Ever the pessimist said:

 

Which news site?

My mrs told me she saw it, I am now thinking it was the rugby club that’s excepted a 35 point deduction and she got confused 

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4 minutes ago, kirksandallowl said:


it’s pretty simple really if you understand how business and accounting works, you will probably find it shows in the next set of accounts that an on paper set of transactions that £60m of what SWFC owe Chansiri (directors loans) is repaid and £60m is received for the stadium, no actual cash will change hands. 


According to the Maguire / Star article the debt is repayable in instalments of £7.5 million over an 8 year period which (Maguire says) is unusual for a property transaction.

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5 minutes ago, kirksandallowl said:


it’s pretty simple really if you understand how business and accounting works, you will probably find it shows in the next set of accounts that an on paper set of transactions that £60m of what SWFC owe Chansiri (directors loans) is repaid and £60m is received for the stadium, no actual cash will change hands. 

 

Is that why the EFL statement says they continue to look at our 2018/19 P&S submission which presumably means the accounts?

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1 minute ago, nilsson said:


According to the Maguire / Star article the debt is repayable in instalments of £7.5 million over an 8 year period which (Maguire says) is unusual for a property transaction.

 

May but unusual, but surely how DC chooses to repay himself has nothing to do with them.

 

Faceless Cockwombles.

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5 minutes ago, nilsson said:


According to the Maguire / Star article the debt is repayable in instalments of £7.5 million over an 8 year period which (Maguire says) is unusual for a property transaction.


I’ve not seen that detailed in the accounts but don’t see anything wrong with the chairman paying the debt any way he likes, unusual doesn’t mean wrong. 

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6 minutes ago, Animis said:

 

Is that why the EFL statement says they continue to look at our 2018/19 P&S submission which presumably means the accounts?


doubt it, I would imagine they ar3 still looking at all clubs 18/19 accounts the speed they seem to move at.  

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I've nothing against Mr. Chansiri and I am sure that he is a decent bloke who has tried his best.

 

However, I don't like the way that a lot of things have been done during his tenure and the ticket pricing is the main one. I just want to go and watch the club I have supported since the mid 70s and don't think that paying the best part of £50 quid is something that a lot of people can justify. I accept that he has put millions of his own money into the club, but where has it got us? We are still in the same league and face the prospect of a potential crippling points deduction that might relegate us. Where do we stand then? Will Mr. Chansiri still want to be involved? If not, the financial future is very worrying.

 

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2 hours ago, Beholder said:

If the cvnts relegate us over this, im fkn done with football.

 

 

Wrong attitude mate...

A lot of Wednesday were "Done with football" a while ago...This is serious and it will take some pulling back if we do go down.

Chansiri will have to drop the prices to a level thats fair, and hope that the fans ardour for the club gets most of them offa tyheir backsides.

Some fans may well grumble, its his bed let him lie in it, I suppose thats fair enough if you have been priced out of watching regularly...Some fans will slate the fans who do come back at lower prices...All pointless exercises...First ting I'll say to a returning Owls is

"Welcome back mate"

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Football is about resources and how you use them.

 

Unfortunately, bar the first season, we have wasted the resources made available to us.

 

A more pragmatic, long term approach and I believe it is us in the Premier League.

 

Unfortunately, we blew our chance and it seems like we are going to be paying for that for many years to come. 

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