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Monk said after game that he pulled out of training after 5 mins yesterday so why play him today

another questionable decision by monk 

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6 hours ago, ka58 said:

he’s played 300 games - which shows he’s a proper player - that doesn’t happen If you aren’t any good.

 

Of course. I'm not saying that he's not a good player. He's developed into a competent Championship right-back.

 

I'm just pointing out that those who refer to him as naive or 'needing to learn' seem to overlook the fact that he's one of our experienced players now rather than an up-and-coming youngster, and the weaknesses in his game probably aren't going to suddenly disappear at this stage of his career.

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One goal and single figure assists in over 300 games ....... so very lucky to have been offered another contract and his referral to type since he signed it is no coincidence.

Squad player at the absolute tops!

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9 hours ago, timrud said:

He seldom offers anything going forwards, Fox's delivery is good into the box. Palmer could learn a lot from him.

 

He had a decent run at the end of last season when his contract was due - I'd like to see this again

not the first time we've seen that, is it?

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9 hours ago, Themagiccap said:

Monk said after game that he pulled out of training after 5 mins yesterday so why play him today

another questionable decision by monk 

And the Monk bashing begins

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2 hours ago, HOOTIE AND THE poo TU said:

And the Monk bashing begins

It’s not Bashing, far from it. But with a fully fit back up is it worth risking Palmer? 

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When was Palmers last good game?

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Tell you what I did notice yesterday, that when Palmer went forward, Murphy dropped back into his position until he got back. Happened a few times. Never seen that before and I think normally Hutch would do that job. Monk has obviously drilled them well with things like that. Just needs to drill them in how to defend a lead for more than 2 minutes now. 

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3 hours ago, Sultan_Pepper said:

I thought he was the best player on the pitch yesterday.

 

Funny thing opinions

 

Hi Liam's dad

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4 hours ago, timrud said:

 

Hi Liam's dad

:)

 

If that late lapse hadn't cost us yesterday and we'd come back from a late win owlstalk would be full of posts about automatic. You lot being instantly negative as soon as we drop points is just depressing. Cheer up

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He’s not the first Wednesday player to make the wrong decision and won’t be the last. 

 

Ties in with the game management thread. 

 

I like Palmer btw. Deserves as much credit as the rest of the team. 

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Not sure I've seen a Palmer Scapegoat thread for a while.

 

Suppose as Fox playing well now and Dawson on the bench we need to go back full circle.

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The defence are doing their job, it’s the forwards who aren’t 

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On 09/11/2019 at 21:02, HOOTIE AND THE poo TU said:

As most of you probably now, I'm not Palmer's biggest fan

 

He always puts a shift in, but it's not enough for a modern day full back

 

His defending has improved over the last 2 years, but he still does silly things

 

If I was our manager, his position would be the first to come under review, I'd want a modern day full back who can actually cross a ball

 

He gets into some great positions, but his crossing is woeful

 

Having said all that, I thought he did okay today

Agree with what Hootie is saying here, he is a competent fullback but no way can he play the wingback role which is so important in the modern game. 

 

With good wingbacks you really don't need wingers supplying the ammo for the forwards, this allows you to play a proper 433 with the 3 midfield players playing narrow and stopping midfield becoming overrun which is a poblem we have when we go 442 with 2 wide men supporting Fletcher.

 

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17 hours ago, gurujuan said:

The defence are doing their job, it’s the forwards who aren’t 

 

Doing their jobs? Last 4 conceded in 2 games are all individual mistakes 

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17 hours ago, gurujuan said:

The defence are doing their job, it’s the forwards who aren’t 


Not helped by the lack of service. Both full backs offer very little going forward and whilst both have shown some improvement, Palmer and Fox are still the weakest part of the team - and have been for years now. 
 

 

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Palmer is an average player, nothing more nothing less. Would like us to sign better but at the minute I feel we need to improve up top more than defence. Be bloody nice to improve both in January though. 

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5 minutes ago, S18_Owl said:


Not helped by the lack of service. Both full backs offer very little going forward and whilst both have shown some improvement, Palmer and Fox are still the weakest part of the team - and have been for years now. 
 

 

Jeez how many excuses can we come up with, 3 out and out wingers, midfielders with the creativity of Bannan and Luongo, and we’re blaming the full backs

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Is it just me who finds these threads infuriating?

 

It's as if people are waiting for us not to win so they can lump all the blame on their old scapegoat again. 

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