SallyCinnamon Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Lord Snooty said: "Bruce will need 3 windows to sort this shower out" Monk has has none and no pre season to prepare us in the way he wants. We currently sit seventh. We could actually be higher but for some injury time conceding in the last two. Par for the course considering Bruce-gate and the squad being together so long. Are people really surprised we have dropped some points? Is it reactionary or did something happen (that i clearly missed) between Bruce leaving and Blackburn that propelled people's expectations? I keep hearing were not going to go up now. That we won't challenge top two. We're we ever expecting to? I think the frustration is coming from conceding late goals and not seeing games out. With a bit more concentration we could be in the top two. I didn’t expect us to be challenging, but I expect us to manage games better than we have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: I think the frustration is coming from conceding late goals and not seeing games out. With a bit more concentration we could be in the top two. I didn’t expect us to be challenging, but I expect us to manage games better than we have. That's sort of my point. This is largely the same squad we've had for the best part of 4 years. They've been nearly men a lot. Managing games out is part of that. I'm not surprised when we have lapses or crazy moments. In fact I think it's one of the reasons why realistically we didn't expect to challenge. Frustrating of course. But unexpected? No. Edited November 9, 2019 by Lord Snooty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 32 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: Last two home games have been really enjoyable overall. Agreed. Despite playing two of the better teams, Monk has gone at them on the front foot. We could easily have scored 3 in each game and got 6 points. Far more positives than negatives in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KivoOwl Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Lord Snooty said: "Bruce will need 3 windows to sort this shower out" Monk has has none and no pre season to prepare us in the way he wants. We currently sit seventh. We could actually be higher but for some injury time conceding in the last two. Par for the course considering Bruce-gate and the squad being together so long. Are people really surprised we have dropped some points? Is it reactionary or did something happen (that i clearly missed) between Bruce leaving and Blackburn that propelled people's expectations? I keep hearing were not going to go up now. That we won't challenge top two. We're we ever expecting to? If you charge fans top half Premier League prices, expect them to have high expectations every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Still haven’t beaten a good side this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggoisgod Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, torryowl said: Cracking game today between 2 good teams ..... I'd expect both clubs to be in contention for the play offs . If we are in the play off mix I'll be very surprised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) Monks post match interview is spot on. Let's be honest, we did a lot right in that game. Forget the mistakes and bad luck because they are always going to be factors. What ultimately killed us is the mental frailty of the players, time and time again we see there are too few cool heads. To win this league you have zero ability to carry players that are lightweights in terms of mental fortitude and character. Edited November 9, 2019 by Morepork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, KivoOwl said: If you charge fans top half Premier League prices, expect them to have high expectations every game. I see your point. I base my own expectations by what I see with my eyes though rather than what I pay. Have a mid table team expect a mid table finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Lord Snooty said: That's sort if my point. This is largely the same squad we've had for the best part of 4 years. They've been nearly men a lot. Managing games out is part of that. I'm not surprised when we have lapses or crazy moments. In fact I think it's one of the reasons why realistically we didn't expect to challenge. Possibly! Initially, I thought we would be upper mid table this season, however from what I’ve seen of this league and our performances since Monk has come in, I am upgrading my expectations to a lower playoff position. Yes, we currently have a similar nucleus of players from over the last 4 years and they have failed on a number of occasions, however the last 2 seasons we have failed due to mismanagement at team level and a chronic injury crisis. The league is average this season and if we had that little bit of composure and good game management, we could have been top 2 now. It’s very frustrating but we should have reasons to be optimistic. A striker with good movement and pace in January is a must. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Morepork said: Monks post match interview is spot on. Let's be honest, we did a lot right in that game. Forget the mistakes and bad luck because they are always going to be factors. What ultimately killed us is the mental frailty of the players, time and time again we see there are too few cool heads. To win this league you have zero ability to carry players that are lightweights in terms of mental fortitude and character. He came across really well in that interview, clearly doesn’t lose his head in emotional situations. Hopefully this will soon be visible in his team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Bouncing Owl said: Possibly! ....... A striker with good movement and pace in January is a must. I suspect Monk has already highlighted to the recruitment team areas which he would be looking to move people on and bring people in. Perhaps even names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Just now, Lord Snooty said: I suspect Monk has already highlighted to the recruitment team areas which he would be looking to move people on and bring people in. Perhaps even names. I think there was a piece in the star this week confirming that a meeting has taken place with the recruitment team. Personally, I think he would like to bring in a couple of strikers with different attributes should he be able to move Winnall and Rhodes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, Bouncing Owl said: I think there was a piece in the star this week confirming that a meeting has taken place with the recruitment team. Personally, I think he would like to bring in a couple of strikers with different attributes should he be able to move Winnall and Rhodes on. I think the issue with those two might be finding takers. Shame Winnall got injures at Derby as I'm pretty sure we'd have been able to move him, probably with a small margin of profit. Rhodes... well, it's played out a bit like a tragedy really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Just now, Lord Snooty said: I think the issue with those two might be finding takers. Shame Winnall got injures at Derby as I'm pretty sure we'd have been able to move him, probably with a small margin of profit. Rhodes... well, it's played out a bit like a tragedy really. Thats true. I understand that Norwich offered to take Rhodes off us without a fee being involved in August. If that’s on the table in January, I’d be tempted to take that offer and use those £35k PW wages to bring in a couple of loans. I think we could get a few of around £750k for Winnall. Shame as we could have got £3m prior to his second knee operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying V Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 I don't think we're far off, hopefully two or three players in January recruited and a top six position is more than possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOTIE AND THE SHIT TU Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 2 hours ago, torryowl said: Cracking game today between 2 good teams ..... I'd expect both clubs to be in contention for the play offs . I thought they were there for the taking If we had taken half our chances we would have been 2-0 up before we needlessly gave away the corner they scored from If we both make the play offs, I'd fancy our chances Just a bloke, who used up all his luck in one go when he met his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horny owl Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 We’re making rubbish sides look like ‘champions league’ contenders January is taking too long to come Our season depends on us getting better players in or we’re phooked Sick of us being predictably weak both mentally and physically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 3 hours ago, S1Owl said: Monks right in his interview, it was just bad luck we didn't get at least 2 in first half. Hitting posts n goal line scrambles, are luck not how team is set up.. I praise Monk for team set up just need to be more clinical Hit the post 4 times in.the last 2 games. Last game they score from.a wicked deflection then we do dame a shot goes just wide. Luck has to change ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, meggoisgod said: If we are in the play off mix I'll be very surprised that'll be nice for you then if we are …... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 win from 5 is a poor return. Yes we have been unlucky but still disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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