Guest Willow Owl Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Ian said: Are you kidding......I know it’s Monday morning but that’s ridiculously easy Hodge Pressman Springett Westwood Turner (Ian) Carson Camp Without even spending too long wondering if I’ve missed any You got to be joking. I presume you are on about Ron Springett and that was before my time. Pressman is the only one that could get anywhere near Woods and 2 of those weren't even our keepers they were on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie’s Left Peg Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Ian said: Add Kirkland Bywater Weaver Crossley Lucas to my list And Camp should have said Grant So still Hodge and Springett then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Willow Owl Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Ian said: Add Kirkland Bywater Weaver Crossley Lucas to my list And Camp should have said Grant Wow, you got to be kidding me. Suppose it's all about opinions so respect on that front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Woods was a good keeper in his prime but imo his best days were before he joined us ... not as bad as some are claiming but he did have a mistake in him and no surprise when he lost his place here and couldn't win it back . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Owl Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 49 minutes ago, torryowl said: Woods was a good keeper in his prime but imo his best days were before he joined us ... not as bad as some are claiming but he did have a mistake in him and no surprise when he lost his place here and couldn't win it back . You mean forest which was probably in his prime. I can only judge on when I saw him play for wednesday. Not the worst goalkeeper wev'e ever had but nowhere near the best either, average would be putting him in a good light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hooper Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) He's made more mistakes than usual this season, but he's still a very good goalkeeper. We've just been lucky that's he's been so good for so long now, we're not used to an error. Look at the top keepers in the Premier League, they all go through patches and all make mistakes. De Gea went through a spell last season, Lloris this season. It happens. When he starts letting in long range shots and not getting down to the low shots fast enough, that's when you'll know hes past it, but for now he's just fine. Class keeper, make the most of him while you can. We also can't just get rid of all the big characters at the club, we'll be left with such a generic passionless squad. Westwood brings alot more to the club than he goalkeeping ability. He's a leader, he cares about the club and really has a connection to the fans. Edited November 11, 2019 by Mr Hooper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daizan10 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Two mistakes, two saves I don't think Cammy would have made, it works out all the same really and it was only last game he was the MOM in my opinion. I cant get behind all this negativity regarding Westwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Daizan10 said: Two mistakes, two saves I don't think Cammy would have made, it works out all the same really and it was only last game he was the MOM in my opinion. I cant get behind all this negativity regarding Westwood. No it doesn't...he gets paid to make the saves not drop clangers that cost us the win and not for the 1st time this season . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatbloke Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) His first mistake I thought was that he had just had an altercation with Fox, Fox had to head over because he didn’t get a shout from Westwood ,Then Westwood began to savage him verbally Fox turned away and had a word with Bannan and Bannan in-turn gave West wood a blast ,this could only have been a few seconds before the first goal ,the afore mentioned altercation must stil have been playing on his mind resulting in the total fubar of an attempt to keep goal ,He really needs to keep his mind on his own game for me! Edited November 11, 2019 by fatbloke Missed a bit ,no he’s still the best Keeper we have stuck with him for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 On 09/11/2019 at 17:42, heppers said: To be fair the same could have been said of Chris Woods I think were on about the present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 On 09/11/2019 at 17:58, 0wl18 said: Dawson wouldn’t be first choice for the vast majority of league 1 teams. Westwood is still very much one of the best goalkeepers in the league. A lot of fans have incredibly short memories. everybody has their day, in football it's harder to see the end, as opposed to boxing where some nigh on nondescript smashes the 'great competitors' face in for him, and everyone calls for him to 'retire'. westwood is capable of making a top class save, true, but he seems to have dropped more b****x this season than in his entire time with us put together. when he's lost it, that will be it, no one can go on forever. monk will have an eye on the situation, and may think 'competition' introduced at Christmas might be good for the club, and the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 20 hours ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: At Blackburn he was good Although early on he parried a ball that was easy meat but made it look like the ball was radioactive , they all seem to do this these days though up n down the leagues .. However yesterday different kettle of fish .. He looked like he was drowning at corners It's obvious words have been had on the bullshìt timewasting ...he's speeded up that crappolla .. My take is that the 18 yard area is his back yard And he should be the gaffer there .. He wasnt yesterday for certain and our next games will be scrutinised in great detail on this weakness by forthcoming opponents that's as sure as eggs are eggs .. Trouble is Dawsons just as weak in this area too!!!!.. it's been like this a long while .. This is a weak area for us ... I don't think in 'modern football' you can expect a keeper to be 'the gaffer of the 18 yard box', a good many weren't in decades gone by. I think the 'radioactive' handling comes from the 'new' light ball moving around like a housefly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Mountain Owl said: You mean forest which was probably in his prime. I can only judge on when I saw him play for wednesday. Not the worst goalkeeper wev'e ever had but nowhere near the best either, average would be putting him in a good light. I could write something about pinching caps. never secure as an england keeper. hoped for better for wednesday, I though we bought a name, not a 'worthy reputation'. everybody to draw their own conclusion on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, dorian gray said: I don't think in 'modern football' you can expect a keeper to be 'the gaffer of the 18 yard box', a good many weren't in decades gone by. I think the 'radioactive' handling comes from the 'new' light ball moving around like a housefly. I reckon we go with @Ian 's Auntie next game then ... She will boss the 18 yard box and swat that pesky housefly back handed ...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Mountain Owl said: You mean forest which was probably in his prime. I can only judge on when I saw him play for wednesday. Not the worst goalkeeper wev'e ever had but nowhere near the best either, average would be putting him in a good light. Norwich. He never played a league game for Forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Owl Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 16 minutes ago, alanharper said: Norwich. He never played a league game for Forest. He won the league cup with forest having played every round and the final. He was second goalkeeper behind the fantastic Shilton at the time. I agree he was good at Norwich too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, Mountain Owl said: He won the league cup with forest having played every round and the final. He was second goalkeeper behind the fantastic Shilton at the time. I agree he was good at Norwich too. It wasn't his prime though, he was only a kid and never played a league game for them. Only played in the cup that year because Shilton was cup tied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Owl Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, alanharper said: It wasn't his prime though, he was only a kid and never played a league game for them. Only played in the cup that year because Shilton was cup tied. He was a far better goalkeeper in his younger days. He was kept out by Shilton who was one of if not the best at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OasisOwl72 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 This season in Championship: Westwood: 13 conceded in 1160 minutes = 1 goal per 89 minutes W 5 D 3 L 5 Dawson: 1 conceded (offside goal v Cardiff) in 280 minutes = 1 goal per 280 minutes W 2 D 1 L 0 Make of that what you will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc-dan Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I don't know how people can critisise when he made two excellent saves during the same match. Those two errors are so rare it's crazy they happened in the same game. If he starts making a habit of them then of course we should give him time out of the team. But based on one poor game is ludicrous. Dawson will get his chance in time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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