toppOwl Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 None of us have ever seen the Owls go a full season unbeaten and I doubt we ever will, great Owls sides have lost games we expected them to win and won others against the odds, why has it become a seemingly modern trait of fans to treat on defeat as an absolute calamity of epic proportions. Last week we put up a very good performance against the leagues current best side Leeds, people were saying we more than matched them, played some great football and should have won, one week later we lose to Blackburn in a game where two very influential midfielders are missing from the line up (Bannan & Luongo) and all of a sudden we are a mid table side, the manager should be replaced and we need 15 new signings, its quite staggering to hear the bile spilled especially when we are still in a decent position and everybody is beating each other (see Fulham v Hull). 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outrageousowl Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Agreed. Monk and the lads also have to be allowed to make mistakes, thats part of any process to becoming successful. Of course we need a couple more players, but so do nearly every other team in the league. Late goals are frustrating but tbh i would have accepted not getting relegated after cabbagio done one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfield Owl Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Saturday’s performance was a shambles. Would have been daylight robbery had we held on at 0-1. We got sucker-punched late on for the second time in 2 weeks, which is concerning. Our choice of *ahem* tactics were questionable. We were playing a Blackburn team in rancid form, not Real Madrid at the Bernabeu. So why the hell did we set up with so many defensive players? It isn’t an overreaction to expect better than total garbage. Its called passion and it shows you care. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2hoots Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 It’s not that we lose games - it’s the manner of losing (or not winning) from winning positions, and it happens very regularly. Some of us cannot understand the mentality or tactics of defending a lead in your own penalty area. We should be defending our leads, in the main, in the oppositions half of the pitch, especially in the last 5 minutes. The last 2 away games have seen us throw away 5 points that would see us at the top. Inexcusable - these are professional footballers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyTiger Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I think the problem is the performances rather than the defeats, even when we have been winning games this season its hard to say that we played particularly exciting or attractive football. The Stoke game was a case in point, we got 3 points but it in pure entertainment terms it was absolute rubbish. And Saturday again was poor, considering the cost of the tickets I think I have a right to moan! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairOwl Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Tbh if I'd just paid out 50-60 quid on watching this tripe, I wouldn't be happy about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 From the Leeds game, the intent shown and the pace of how we played to throwing it away at blackburn is a choker - of course it is - but its early in Monks tenure, he is stuck with some average players - who we all know are 1 good game in 3 AT BEST If its the same in 12-18 months then its worth a moan The reaction on here is so very childish - we've not won - so everything is rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Football fans of all clubs have always been impatient. Add in things like social media, they hype surrounding modern football and ticket prices then its moved up a few notches. Fans overreact good and bad after nearly every game, just a fact of modern football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toppOwl Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share Posted November 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, EasyTiger said: I think the problem is the performances rather than the defeats, even when we have been winning games this season its hard to say that we played particularly exciting or attractive football. The Stoke game was a case in point, we got 3 points but it in pure entertainment terms it was absolute rubbish. And Saturday again was poor, considering the cost of the tickets I think I have a right to moan! If you got promoted winning games in the manner of the Stoke game all would be good, we're a football team not the the Harlem Globetrotters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toppOwl Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share Posted November 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, Westfield Owl said: Saturday’s performance was a shambles. Would have been daylight robbery had we held on at 0-1. We got sucker-punched late on for the second time in 2 weeks, which is concerning. Our choice of *ahem* tactics were questionable. We were playing a Blackburn team in rancid form, not Real Madrid at the Bernabeu. So why the hell did we set up with so many defensive players? It isn’t an overreaction to expect better than total garbage. Its called passion and it shows you care. I wouldn't call totally slating the team and questioning the managers ability after a duff game when the points haul in general has been good "passion" to be honest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrott71 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 We win = Promotion, 10 year contract for the manager We lose = Relegation, sack the manager Its the Owlstalk way. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfield Owl Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, toppOwl said: I wouldn't call totally slating the team and questioning the managers ability after a duff game when the points haul in general has been good "passion" to be honest. What part of what I’ve stated do you have a problem with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toppOwl Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share Posted November 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, Westfield Owl said: What part of what I’ve stated do you have a problem with? I didn't say I did, I said that overbearing negativity isn't passion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kameron Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Is not the defeats that’s hard to take of course we’re gunna lose games. It’s the absolute total negative way in which we set up, it’s like having Jos back with Irvine assisting and Chris Turner as director of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toppOwl Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share Posted November 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, Kameron said: Is not the defeats that’s hard to take of course we’re gunna lose games. It’s the absolute total negative way in which we set up, it’s like having Jos back with Irvine assisting and Chris Turner as director of football. I didn't see that against Leeds, surely if promotion is the aim its got to be points over performances, our points haul so far looks good enough for a top six place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfield Owl Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, toppOwl said: I didn't say I did, I said that overbearing negativity isn't passion. Apologises then, I couldn’t tell from your post what you were getting at. Of course criticism can go too far sometimes. But after Saturday, I think we’d be a pretty spineless fanbase if we just collectively shrugged our shoulders and only focused on the positives. My general point was that observing where we’ve gone wrong is necessary to determining what it is we need to do to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetsheri Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I've been to 2 away games this year (not a true fan) PNE and T'rovers We were absolutely shocking in both. If i want to moan about the 2 performances i will. We were crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, Kameron said: Is not the defeats that’s hard to take of course we’re gunna lose games. It’s the absolute total negative way in which we set up, it’s like having Jos back with Irvine assisting and Chris Turner as director of football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) Actually, it’s the total overreactions to wins that are more comical. And then the people who overreact to the wins are a bit snowflakey when people are critical of defeats. IMO we’ve played well in 3 games this season Edited November 4, 2019 by McRightSide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, McRightSide said: Actually, it’s the total overreactions to wins that are more comical. And then the people who overreact to the wins are a bit snowflakey when people are critical of defeats. Only on Owlstalk can people celebrating wins be classed as comical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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