DobbinTheDonkey Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 We were 7 minutes away from a 'Good teams grind out a win, even when playing poorly' post from someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Jeez some reyt bed wetters on here we got what we deserved today nowt but its 1 game ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 This is what happens when you try and win every game 1-0. It’s obvious that we don’t create enough clear cut chances and we don’t take enough of them when we do Evenually it ends up costing you points. Should have beaten Cardiff. Should have beaten Leeds. Should have made something of the 10 corners in the first half today but we didn’t, then we implode at the end. We’ve won 3 games this season (Stoke, Luton, Wigan) all 1-0 too where we didn’t dominate. Need to step it up if we’re going to go up. This squad isn’t as good as the play off teams. Pudil was better than the recently improved Fox. Hunt was better than Palmer. Lee isn’t as good as he was, Westwood isn’t quite as good. Wallace had less pace but more end product than Harris or Murphy. Hooper and Joao are gone.. FF can’t get in the side and he would have literally forced his way in back then. The only players you could argue are comparable to then and haven’t declined are Bannan, Hutchinson and Fletcher, and you could argue the new CBs are better than Loovens and Lees The division is poor but we haven’t improved. I still think we’ll finish somewhere between 5-8th this season but we’re far from convincing. If we did fluke our way up we’d need 20 new players. Also need some goals from somewhere to even achieve that.. about time FF played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetsheri Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 We were crap today. Deserved what we got. Nowt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Mowbray was over the moon when he heard Baz was not playing wonder why ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N0rtherner Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Disappointing, very disappointing. Could've been an impressive away performance if we'd rode out those last minutes and get all 3 pts, but that's life... or "The Wednesday Way" as many will have it. Not consistent enough; somewhat due to injuries but also many players on the pitch not managing to keep their cool and play sensibly/tactically. But looking at the table, I notice something, we're still 7th, 4 pts off autos and a point off play offs. But more importantly, look at the form of those above and below... there's no straight greens, just another testament to this league being chaos. Nobody is cruising through here like Liverpool and Man City are in Prem League, but you just got to expect tough matches all the time and you'll get your share of freak losses and lost points. Yea, we're the team with 5 losses there, and fewest draws, so there's something to take away in terms of becoming even more solid at the back and not throwing away leads like we've done today and v Cardiff. But looking at the form, it doesn't quite seem "The Wednesday Way" only applies to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 17 minutes ago, McRightSide said: Preston, Leeds, Fulham, QPR, Blackburn zero wins. Keep drinking the kool aid 2 draws against decent sides, a defeat at a place we never seem to win at, and 2 typical championship matches where we didnt turn up and lost? Dont see your point there, mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, DobbinTheDonkey said: We were 7 minutes away from a 'Good teams grind out a win, even when playing poorly' post from someone. This is true - and in some respect they would have a point. However, the problem with our players, set up and tactics is most games will be attritional, tight and fairly poor quality. People will just need to accept this and hope we gather enough points to stay in touch. We are a fairly well drilled team, with individuals who have mixed ability. They do have serval years of championship experience, but are one dimensional, which is probably down to successive manager's reaction to what they inherited. CC's 2nd season was the moment we fecd up IMO - we had the chance and cash to get 4/5 really good players into the existing squad who would have pushed us on but we failed. The two performances against Huddersfield are still being churned out regular 2 an half years on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfield Owl Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 13 minutes ago, LondonOwl313 said: This is what happens when you try and win every game 1-0. It’s obvious that we don’t create enough clear cut chances and we don’t take enough of them when we do Evenually it ends up costing you points. Should have beaten Cardiff. Should have beaten Leeds. Should have made something of the 10 corners in the first half today but we didn’t, then we implode at the end. We’ve won 3 games this season (Stoke, Luton, Wigan) all 1-0 too where we didn’t dominate. Need to step it up if we’re going to go up. This squad isn’t as good as the play off teams. Pudil was better than the recently improved Fox. Hunt was better than Palmer. Lee isn’t as good as he was, Westwood isn’t quite as good. Wallace had less pace but more end product than Harris or Murphy. Hooper and Joao are gone.. FF can’t get in the side and he would have literally forced his way in back then. The only players you could argue are comparable to then and haven’t declined are Bannan, Hutchinson and Fletcher, and you could argue the new CBs are better than Loovens and Lees The division is poor but we haven’t improved. I still think we’ll finish somewhere between 5-8th this season but we’re far from convincing. If we did fluke our way up we’d need 20 new players. Also need some goals from somewhere to even achieve that.. about time FF played That one sentence for me is the most frustrating thing about this season. There are teams that will end up in the top 6 in May that wouldn’t have been good enough in previous years. Very ordinary league, which we’re not taking advantage of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, N0rtherner said: Disappointing, very disappointing. Could've been an impressive away performance if we'd rode out those last minutes and get all 3 pts, but that's life... or "The Wednesday Way" as many will have it. Not consistent enough; somewhat due to injuries but also many players on the pitch not managing to keep their cool and play sensibly/tactically. But looking at the table, I notice something, we're still 7th, 4 pts off autos and a point off play offs. But more importantly, look at the form of those above and below... there's no straight greens, just another testament to this league being chaos. Nobody is cruising through here like Liverpool and Man City are in Prem League, but you just got to expect tough matches all the time and you'll get your share of freak losses and lost points. Yea, we're the team with 5 losses there, and fewest draws, so there's something to take away in terms of becoming even more solid at the back and not throwing away leads like we've done today and v Cardiff. But looking at the form, it doesn't quite seem "The Wednesday Way" only applies to us. It's a very open league this season. In fact, over the last 6 games, the two form sides were Brentford and Huddersfield, who actually played each other today - and neither of them were even in the top half of the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 18 minutes ago, LittleG said: Nobody's said we have a divine right to win matches and if you think only Wednesday fans respond badly to a defeat then you're sadly mistaken. We've been out of the top flight for 20 years, I think we've earned the right to be a little cynical about our chances of returning there Nobody really cared aviht losing til we got to the playoffs the other season. Like I say, that season gave some of our fans the thoughts that we could just turn up and win every game cos we're massive Wednesday. Not gonna happen, defeats like today happen. We'll still be around top 6 at seasons end, and hopefully in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scilly owl Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 “Lads lads lads and everybody”as the ad on telly goes, the sooner we are all able to be realistic and manage our expectations then the sooner we won’t all go into a meltdown when we lose. I yelled “f•ck” at the tele in front of my wife when their second goal went in but that was out of disappointment rather than surprise . The two words that a lot of Owlstalkers turned to at the end of the match were mid table and that about sums us up. There are several teams better than us and not so many that are worse ( bit of a glum appraisal but that’s my opinion) and when we put these sneaky little runs together where we ride our luck and win by one goal thereby finding ourselves within striking distance of the top three then I’m as delighted as the rest of you , but I know that without a little more creativity and someone who has the habitual knack of scoring we are always going to be fairly bog standard. I still really believe in The Monkmiester and I’m hoping for a flippin good transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheriwozgod Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Still in a decent position in the table but we seem to be overly defensive at the moment , and I have to admit the alarm bells were ringing for me yesterday when he was gushing about Pelupessy,s performance last week. It may have been just his way of boosting his confidence but if he REALLY thinks JP played well against Leeds then that IS a worrying sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 42 minutes ago, sMacLean said: 4 pts off the top, we go again. Need to stay within 6 up to the transfer window ideally. Anyone can beat anyone in this league look at Fulham today. I don’t think it’s the defeat that has p*ssed everyone off. It’s the manner of the defeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted November 2, 2019 Author Share Posted November 2, 2019 It’s the hope that kills you. Deep down I know this side is mid table no matter who is in charge. But I thought after last weeks game we could maybe challenge with a bit of luck. Today brings you right back down to earth. Garbage Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: 2 draws against decent sides, a defeat at a place we never seem to win at, and 2 typical championship matches where we didnt turn up and lost? Dont see your point there, mate. sorry, forgot Hull too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Nobody really cared aviht losing til we got to the playoffs the other season. Like I say, that season gave some of our fans the thoughts that we could just turn up and win every game cos we're massive Wednesday. Not gonna happen, defeats like today happen. We'll still be around top 6 at seasons end, and hopefully in it Pre Chansiri though we had poor players. All we could hope for every year was to be solid, grind out results and finish mid table. Never looked like threatening the play offs once in 11 seasons at this level between 2000-2015. That means there’s no point getting bothered about it either way. Since then, we bought new players and are a better side.. but it makes it more frustrating because we still don’t make it look like we’ll get promoted when we could do it if we were just a bit better. We’re also paying rip off prices for the privilege so that raises people’s sense of entitlement. Then you look across the city and it makes you even more angry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, McRightSide said: sorry, forgot Hull too. Again, that doesn't do anything to the point you're trying to make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc-dan Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 58 minutes ago, erowl said: We were very poor for 3/4 of that game ... Ans as for Pelupessy's corners .. WOW! Certainly didn't deserve to win it and probably a fair result in the end Wtf Pessy took the corners over Reach? Surely Harris a much better option too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LittleG Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Nobody really cared aviht losing til we got to the playoffs the other season. Like I say, that season gave some of our fans the thoughts that we could just turn up and win every game cos we're massive Wednesday. Not gonna happen, defeats like today happen. We'll still be around top 6 at seasons end, and hopefully in it I think you're way out of touch with the majority of Wed fans. We all know the "massive" thing is just tongue in cheek and I don't know one fan who thinks we only have to turn up to win. I think you need to get out and about amongst the true fans. As for the top 6, unless we improve our goal scoring I think we will be some way off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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