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7 minutes ago, Westfield Owl said:

 

We’ve beaten three w*nk teams recently in Huddersfield, Stoke and Boro.

 

Thrown away points late on against Cardiff and obviously Blackburn today.

 

Complete no-show performances against Hull, Everton, today etc.

 

I’d be lying if I said that I’m not concerned.

The three we beat were bottom three. Hudds had not then revived under Cowley.

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11 minutes ago, Socialist_Owl said:

Good for them, but I'd hope our thin squad wouldn't waste much time in frippery like that.

 

Don’t worry.  Our performance that night showed that the club weren’t bothered about being in the cup.

 

This was at home against a flakey Everton team on a bad run.  A winnable fixture IMO.

 

Not like we could have done with a cup-run to bring in some income to the club.  After all, we know what we’re up against with FFP/P&S.

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The problem is anyone can beat anyone in this league look at Fulham today. Blackburn been struggling but there attacking play has been good. Lads just didn’t turn up today need some good young additions in January. Just scary how much we need bannan 

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6 minutes ago, Royal_D said:


point is we’re 4pts off the top, and one defeat has half the fanbase waving the white flags 


Fair point but the performances have been poor. Generally solid at the back but really limited going forward. Can’t  expect to consistently win football matches without a plan of attack. Conceding territory and possession to every opponent we play regardless of how good or bad they are is inviting results like today. 
As stated by a previous poster in another thread. Fans will tolerate poor performances of results are good but IF performances don’t improve and results get worse THEN we’ve got a problem. Simply must get back on track against Swansea 

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19 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said:

 

Cardiff have one of the best home records in the division and have backed that up with 10 men today. How many have Huddersfield lost under their new manager? Hull was a poor performance but we still deserved something. Got beat by their first effort on target and had a certain penalty not given.

 

face facts. the quality in this division is not great from near top to bottom and we are one of the teams in contention for top 6. If you switch off at this level you will pay the price as teams are much of a muchness.

How have much fancied Fulham got on at home to Hull today. How did in contention Bristol do at Barnsley? 

 

I'm concerned some of our supporters like to be critical much more than support and praise. What were your expectations for this season? 

 

Why would I give a stuff how Fulham or Bristol are getting on.?  Personally I’d be surprised if either of those clubs managers were still in employment at the end of this season.

 

In terms of expectations, our squad is good enough for a top 6 finish.

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13 minutes ago, Royal_D said:


point is we’re 4pts off the top, and one defeat has half the fanbase waving the white flags 

What I am concerned about is how many goals are there in a team with a solo striker in Fletcher? And do we have the midfield to reinforce the defence and break away for fast attacks to relieve the pressure  to ensure we can win 1-0? 

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Ive always kinda poo pooed this mentally weak excuse but i am starting to believe it.

We just dont seem that bothered.

 

To many players just happy being average. Comfort zone.

We are capable of much more.

 

Actually, maybe we aint.

Taking off my blue and white specs for a minute......

 

 

We are what we are... mid table.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Westfield Owl said:

 

Why would I give a stuff how Fulham or Bristol are getting on.  Personally I’d be surprised if either of those clubs managers were still in employment at the end of this season.

 

In terms of expectations, our squad is good enough for a top 6 finish.

 

Generally if you take a look at the results of teams around you it is possible to see that no result should be taken for granted an no defeat should come as too much of a surprise. Results like this will happen in this league, as has happened to all of the top 6 already.

 

We are 1 place off the top 6. Today is a hugely disappointing performance and result, especially with how it panned out but you seem to be proper angry mad when our form has been top 2 under Monk up until now. 

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3 minutes ago, Westfield Owl said:

 

Why would I give a stuff how Fulham or Bristol are getting on.?  Personally I’d be surprised if either of those clubs managers were still in employment at the end of this season.

 

In terms of expectations, our squad is good enough for a top 6 finish.

Let's change manager again.

 

This one is crap isn't he?

 

:duntmatter:

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Monk was only 6 minutes from pulling a master stroke.

 

Westwood at fault for the first and Borner for the second.

 

Uncharacteristic individual errors.

 

Credit them for not throwing in the towel after we scored...Monk gambled and it looked like it had worked.

 

 

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I don't think it's bed wetting to voice concern.

Pre Monk we were a bit lucky at times under Bully.

Been better since he arrived but the lack of goals is a concern.

Winning 1-0 seems to be the aim. Didn't quite happen last week and didn't happen today.

I can't call this team at all after today. Dunno if we are going to be in for a good season or a disappointing one.

 

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11 minutes ago, agentwalker said:

Shoot me down but looking at things overall, performances etc, are we really looking any better than what we were under Dross?

 

Remove the fact he shot himself in the foot with not playing Westwood etc. With Dross we went into the first international brake high up the league but performances were bad. You could see it, bad performances but we scraped wins , but eventually the wins stopped but performances remained poor.

 

Similar to now, performances are poor, take out Leeds etc and it's been bad, we've picked up the wins but there's only so many times you can keep playing bad and digging out the wins. Eventually it catches up and the wins dry up and the performances go down hill. Are we at that stage now we're it's about to turn again?

Games all about opinions but in my opinion the Dross days were my worse watching Wednesday since I started in 1978. I know we had darker days at the bottom end of league 1 but Jos seemed to be hitting the self destruct button in a way previously unseen. 
 

Performances under Monk have been uninspiring and lacking in entertainment but we can see his plan: creating a base of being solid and hard to beat then moving the focus on building on that by developing an attacking threat. 
 

We should also consider Monk finds himself with limited attacking options. However I personally believe we can better utilise what we have. 

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19 minutes ago, markowl said:

20,000 Wednesday fans?

 

You on drugs?

 

WTF:

 

The attendance was 21,485.

 

Obviously I’m aware there was a large amount of away fans.  But I didn’t state that there was 20,000 SWFC fans there did I?

 

And no, I don’t do drugs.  Any particular reason why you ask?

 

19 minutes ago, markowl said:

Let's change manager again.

 

This one is crap isn't he?

 

:duntmatter:

 

Way too early to draw conclusions on that.

 

But this is a public forum.  Folk can air their views.  Today has been a crap performance and result.

 

And Monk needs to sort this sh*t out ASAP.

 

22 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said:

 

Generally if you take a look at the results of teams around you it is possible to see that no result should be taken for granted an no defeat should come as too much of a surprise. Results like this will happen in this league, as has happened to all of the top 6 already.

 

We are 1 place off the top 6. Today is a hugely disappointing performance and result, especially with how it panned out but you seem to be proper angry mad when our form has been top 2 under Monk up until now. 

 

I’m way more concerned about today’s performance than the result.

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12 minutes ago, Flat Owl said:

Monk was only 6 minutes from pulling a master stroke.

 

Westwood at fault for the first and Borner for the second.

 

Uncharacteristic individual errors.

 

Credit them for not throwing in the towel after we scored...Monk gambled and it looked like it had worked.

 

 


I agree with your balanced and positive  viewpoint. However. I do feel you’re concentrating on the last 10 mins. The other 80 were awful and not becoming of a team competing for a place in the playoffs. 

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9 minutes ago, Lawrie’s Left Peg said:

Games all about opinions but in my opinion the Dross days were my worse watching Wednesday since I started in 1978. I know we had darker days at the bottom end of league 1 but Jos seemed to be hitting the self destruct button in a way previously unseen. 
 

Performances under Monk have been uninspiring and lacking in entertainment but we can see his plan: creating a base of being solid and hard to beat then moving the focus on building on that by developing an attacking threat. 
 

We should also consider Monk finds himself with limited attacking options. However I personally believe we can better utilise what we have. 

I know what mean, towards the end of Dross he was basically trying everything to get sacked IMO. I'm talking about the early days were we were getting wins but the performances were bad.

 

At the moment you can see some kind of a plan but every match were seeing wonder saves by the keeper, last ditch goal line clearances, the woodwork getting hit. Was the same today, same at Leeds,  same with the Dawson save. Eventually the luck runs out

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4 minutes ago, agentwalker said:

I know what mean, towards the end of Dross he was basically trying everything to get sacked IMO. I'm talking about the early days were we were getting wins but the performances were bad.

 

At the moment you can see some kind of a plan but every match were seeing wonder saves by the keeper, last ditch goal line clearances, the woodwork getting hit. Was the same today, same at Leeds,  same with the Dawson save. Eventually the luck runs out


Agree 100%. I think we have been riding our luck. If we can’t develop our midfield and attack to retain better possession and force our opponents to adapt to our attacking threat then we will always be “holding on”. Not sustainable but Monk recognises this and is addressing it as per his press conferences. Whether or not he can improve things remains to be seen. 

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