Inspector Lestrade Posted November 2, 2019 Author Share Posted November 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, dorian gray said: 'complete novice' and marking his own homework too, we'd have all excelled in school and beyond with those constraints. Watched it with Jason Robinson and he said my summing up of the game was perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mycroft said: Watched it with Jason Robinson and he said my summing up of the game was perfect. was he sat with you then? he'd not need specialist knowledge to see their defence was very strong (outfought), and the scrum half was running the game (outthought) but a major shackle was the referee. just to help you with your 'assessment' the ITV, asking jason robinson was akin to when they had robbie earle on giving his 'expert opinion on champions league football. robinson was a winger, and a league player for half his time, he spent his life avoiding a pack, let alone knowing what was going on in one, and that game was won at the 'coal face' which was ruined by refereeing, not on jason robinson's touchline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted November 2, 2019 Author Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 minute ago, dorian gray said: was he sat with you then? he'd not need specialist knowledge to see their defence was very strong (outfought), and the scrum half was running the game (outthought) but a major shackle was the referee. just to help you with your 'assessment' the ITV, asking jason robinson was akin to when they had robbie earle on giving his 'expert opinion on champions league football. robinson was a winger, and a league player for half his time, he spent his life avoiding a pack, let alone knowing what was going on in one, and that game was won at the 'coal face' which was ruined by refereeing, not on jason robinson's touchline. Are you really obese as you bite all the time? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Just now, Mycroft said: Are you really obese as you bite all the time? I especially enjoy 'biting' you, as you love to post on things you know f*** all about, but keep coming anyway, the other week it was 'football tactics'. see you're back to your tried and tested half a line answer, it attempts to cover your lack of knowledge on the subject your looking to 'impart' your 'expertise' upon once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 31 minutes ago, dorian gray said: we didn't win at that, we just ended up with the trophy. the umpire being motm, as the ref was today. So you are saying we didn't win the CWC, the officials handed it to us but we only lost the RWC today due to the officials being biased in SA's favour? We may have been fortunate in the CWC but only the truly elite teams win major tournaments without a bit of luck along the way. The players believed it was possible when most fans thought it had gone and so deserved their success. New Zealand accepted defeat in better grace than you have taken our victory it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted November 2, 2019 Author Share Posted November 2, 2019 Just now, dorian gray said: I especially enjoy 'biting' you, as you love to post on things you know f*** all about, but keep coming anyway, the other week it was 'football tactics'. see you're back to your tried and tested half a line answer, it attempts to cover your lack of knowledge on the subject your looking to 'impart' your 'expertise' upon once again. Good grief your my toy, I pick you occasionally give you a shake, now I'm gonna pop you back in your corner till the next time Im bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWL1969 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, dorian gray said: was he sat with you then? he'd not need specialist knowledge to see their defence was very strong (outfought), and the scrum half was running the game (outthought) but a major shackle was the referee. just to help you with your 'assessment' the ITV, asking jason robinson was akin to when they had robbie earle on giving his 'expert opinion on champions league football. robinson was a winger, and a league player for half his time, he spent his life avoiding a pack, let alone knowing what was going on in one, and that game was won at the 'coal face' which was ruined by refereeing, not on jason robinson's touchline. Ref didn't help, BUT they dominated us in every aspect, scrummaging (though i agree a few strange decisions), lineouts, tackling, tactics. They were just too powerful in nearly every contact, it was the complete opposite of last week, when we were the ones knocking NZ backwards and causing them to make many mistakes, this time they did it to us and completely stopped us getting any forward momentum and then being able to play "our Rugby". They got their tactics spot on and then went out and executed it perfectly. Deserved victory for them. Now, back to the football. C'mon you Blue & White wizards!! Edited November 2, 2019 by OWL1969 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: So you are saying we didn't win the CWC, the officials handed it to us but we only lost the RWC today due to the officials being biased in SA's favour? We may have been fortunate in the CWC but only the truly elite teams win major tournaments without a bit of luck along the way. The players believed it was possible when most fans thought it had gone and so deserved their success. New Zealand accepted defeat in better grace than you have taken our victory it seems. had the cricket world cup final rules been followed to the letter, england would not have won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beloved_aunt Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 15 posh blokes rolling around in the mud in an interminably boring 'sport' - or the mighty Wednesday winning any match - hardly a choice is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, OWL1969 said: Ref didn't help, BUT they dominated us in every aspect, scrummaging (though i agree a few strange decisions), lineouts, tackling, tactics. They were just too powerful in nearly every contact, it was the complete opposite of last week, when we were the ones knocking NZ backwards and causing them to make many mistakes, this time they did it to us and completely stopped us getting any forward momentum and then being able to play "our Rugby". They got their tactics spot on and then went out and executed it perfectly. Deserved victory for them. Now, back to the football. C'mon you Blue & White wizards!! I agree with your summary, but I believe it would have been a closer game had there been a different referee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HillsboroughOwlNI Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 43 minutes ago, OWL1969 said: Cricket WC 1st Rugby union WC 2nd Rugby League WC 2nd (I think) The WC 4th. Olympics 2nd? (Ok it GB) in medal table (again not certain on this) Could say nearly men. I'd much rather say, the greatest sporting nation across all forms of sport. Flamin’ heck, I was about to post the exact same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mycroft said: Good grief your my toy, I pick you occasionally give you a shake, now I'm gonna pop you back in your corner till the next time Im bored. you're good at nothing I've seen, only chipping in with shyte. pick the one subject you're good at, and i'll see what I can do with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, dorian gray said: had the cricket world cup final rules been followed to the letter, england would not have won. Maybe so, as I say a little bit of luck needed at times. It was a very rare occurrence that caused that decision, so much so that at the time New Zealand didn't question the decision that the umpires made. The ref wasn't great today but didn't affect the game by a 20-pint margin. Sadly the better team on the day won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 They were miles better and I know fuckall about rugby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilnhurstowl Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 So back to the football......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 hour ago, dorian gray said: BANG! pass the racing paper. Stopped watching after he gave that penalty in the first minute. Just knew what was coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 42 minutes ago, Mycroft said: Typical blame it on the French. As a complete novice it was obvious to me that English were outthought and outfought in all areas. That little lad with the long hair never stopped running and harriering our players. If that was the England football team the press would be having a field day slagging them off. Anyway back to real football now. As you are a complete novice you probably wont get this but, had the ref been Nigel Owens instead, completely different game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted November 2, 2019 Author Share Posted November 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, dorian gray said: you're good at nothing I've seen, only chipping in with shyte. pick the one subject you're good at, and i'll see what I can do with that. 1. P-K4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljhowl Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 hour ago, WelshOwl74 said: England didn't turn up(shock) quite simple really South Africa dominated the forward pack and England played into their hands South Africa basically out-Englanded England. England didn't have a plan B and South Africa's Plan A was the same but they just did it better. It's sport isn't it and let's face it Wednesday over the years have been the epitome of inconsistency. Match the top dogs one week; get convincingly beaten by someone in bottom 3 next. I'm sticking my neck out and saying we are a bit different this year with Monk. Don't roll over and die and are as up for games against the "bottom" clubs as the top. So I'm going for 0-2 to the Wednesday today, Fletcher and finally........Palmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted November 2, 2019 Author Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: As you are a complete novice you probably wont get this but, had the ref been Nigel Owens instead, completely different game. Maybe and I bow to your superior knowledge but surely the domination in all areas as seems to be the general consensus was the overriding factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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