the monk Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, torres said: The last one was an important game on a Saturday afternoon and about 2k part timers bothered No one is supporting higher prices, most sensible ones are looking at it logically from DC’s point of view. He isn’t going to change it unless part timers prove him wrong If you expect him to have a ticket giveaway for matches where we get 27k at full whack then you’ll be disappointed I agree with DC in terms of looking after the loyal first, trouble is he’s set the price too high - drop season tickets by £100 across the board Who was the match against ? Not sure where I mentioned a ticket give away Edited October 27, 2019 by the monk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 minute ago, the monk said: Who was the match against ? From memory it wasn’t a “top” team but it was an important match as we were near the bottom as were the opposition I think it was Bolton and we drew - might be wrong though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the monk Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, torres said: From memory it wasn’t a “top” team but it was an important match as we were near the bottom as were the opposition I think it was Bolton and we drew - might be wrong though A Bolton type game then, as I said stop pratting about and sort the stupid prices out clubs that historically have had lower gates than us are now averaging far more But perhaps I'm wrong, maybe there is no more support out there and what we are seeing is our maximum support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleo Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 3 hours ago, thewookieisdown said: The closure of the North to all but STH is a real problem beyond the simple loss of capacity. Means that I can't entice a friend to occupy the empty seat next to me. Means that people either have opt for the south which is expensive and not everyone's cup of tea or the Kop where viewing isn't marvellous from many non STH seats For your info - I'm a ST holder in the North. My son (who is not a ST holder) wanted to bring his son to the Wigan match with all 3 of us sitting together. A quick call to the Ticket Office and they allowed me to change my seat to the South for one match only, at no charge, and purchase 2 seats for my son and Grandson - all 3 of us together. As we live some distance away from the Ground we arranged to pick up the tickets on matchday from the South stand ticket office. The whole process was quick, easy, slick and went off without a hitch. Credit to the Ticket Office. Hope this helps. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, the monk said: A Bolton type game then, as I said stop pratting about and sort the stupid prices out clubs that historically have had lower gates than us are now averaging far more But perhaps I'm wrong, maybe there is no more support out there and what we are seeing is our maximum support Do you go for the opposition then? So you want part timers to get in cheaply for all the “big team” games to the detriment of season ticket holders? Needs sorting from the root of the problem - which is too high season ticket prices Sort that and you go someway to solving the problem - your way doesn’t work long term (or even short term as proved) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 minute ago, the monk said: A Bolton type game then, as I said stop pratting about and sort the stupid prices out clubs that historically have had lower gates than us are now averaging far more But perhaps I'm wrong, maybe there is no more support out there and what we are seeing is our maximum support There’s easily another 5-10k who would go if the prices were consistently lower if we were in top 6 form. There’s no point in changing the prices for one off games as nobody hears about it. Part timers if they have the impression it’s expensive just stop bothering to look at what prices are. Need to just have a set season ticket price for each stand, none of this phases business. Then make POTG 15% more expensive than that. Cut prices across the board, probably by 30% and see attendences rise 20%. The lost revenue wouldn’t be huge.. and then just reduce the playing budget so that overall losses are £13m a year or whatever Chansiri can lose. Its not like there isn’t excess in the playing budget given we’ve spent £16m on Rhodes fee and wages over 4 years and he doesn’t play. This season the squad seems less wasteful but it’s been bad in previous seasons. Deciding what you’re going to spend and then randomly trying to raise the revenue for it is a backward way of doing things. Most businesses work out what their sales can be at a given price, then use that to set the budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkfieldowl14 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 6 hours ago, BarnsleyOwl96 said: We could do with getting Hillsborough fuller , we need a full kop Sadly,that won't happen especially as the SAG and SYP have the final say in on how many people that Hillsborough can safely accomodate.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Plenty will turn up and pay the prices if we are doing well Where's the other 20 thousand who was at Wembley ,happy to pay 90 quid a ticket? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 minute ago, WelshOwl74 said: Plenty will turn up and pay the prices if we are doing well Where's the other 20 thousand who was at Wembley ,happy to pay 90 quid a ticket? We’re doing well now though and they aren’t turning up in big numbers.. And the Wembley game is a one off.. people will pay that for the experience. What they won’t do is pay £46 for a home game that’s live on Sky Prices need cutting for everyone, attendences will go up and offset a big part of the lost revenue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, WelshOwl74 said: Plenty will turn up and pay the prices if we are doing well Where's the other 20 thousand who was at Wembley ,happy to pay 90 quid a ticket? Wembley is simply a day trip....its totally different.. are gillingham. millwall , Wigan etc missing 30'000 supporters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, asteener1867 said: Wembley is simply a day trip....its totally different.. are gillingham. millwall , Wigan etc missing 30'000 supporters? Agreed. It happens to most clubs (apart from Hull) These “missing fans” wouldn’t turn up regularly if it was £15 a match - DC has recognised this hence the match day pricing The principle is right, the execution isn’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Wasn't the Reading game in 2014 season a "Cheap tickets" offer....? nigh on 30'000 there Is that usual for a Reading game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Its obvious people will pay whatever price if its suitable for them Wembley ,Huddersfield and Brighton playoffs come to mind Big crowds at big prices Pricing is silly but most use it as a excuse DC has done the cheap ticket games and its made no difference to attendances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, torres said: Agreed. It happens to most clubs (apart from Hull) These “missing fans” wouldn’t turn up regularly if it was £15 a match - DC has recognised this hence the match day pricing The principle is right, the execution isn’t Don’t need them all to turn up.. just 20% of them which would be more than achievable with cheaper tickets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 What happens is..Fans fall out with the game after being away for a while...If you go a few years without being able to afford it...the odd "one off" offer seems derisory, and in all honesty you aren't bloody bothered anyhow...So its a convenient excuse.... If however you lowered season ticket prices..say just for the Kop and the North...The South is the Grandstand, with probably the best facilities and view... You are giving those fans a valid reason to return. For clubs like Wednesday and areas like Sheffield..outlandish pricing for a game thats on the telly.. especially with an early kick off..and the absolute f.ookin' about by SAG/SYP ain't going to work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, WelshOwl74 said: Its obvious people will pay whatever price if its suitable for them Wembley ,Huddersfield and Brighton playoffs come to mind Big crowds at big prices Pricing is silly but most use it as a excuse DC has done the cheap ticket games and its made no difference to attendances They’re all special games though and there’s much less price elasticity. People want to be there to say they were there when we got back to the PL Normal league games are much more price elastic. Cheap ticket games are a waste of time because people decide that there’s no way they’d pay £40+ to watch a game of football, so they stop bothering and just follow us on TV, radio or online. Cutting prices for a one off game doesn’t work because these people decide at the start of the season they’re not going and have no idea that prices are even being reduced I know loads of people that might go to 5 games a season if prices were normal (i.e. £25ish) but they flat out refuse to pay more. When you compare it to other ways of spending your money it’s not good value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, WelshOwl74 said: Its obvious people will pay whatever price if its suitable for them Wembley ,Huddersfield and Brighton playoffs come to mind Big crowds at big prices Pricing is silly but most use it as a excuse DC has done the cheap ticket games and its made no difference to attendances Reading 2014...30'000...Why was that if not the prices? It was September...It was Reading...they probably brought the usual minibus... Why was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 hour ago, LondonOwl313 said: There’s easily another 5-10k who would go if the prices were consistently lower if we were in top 6 form. There’s no point in changing the prices for one off games as nobody hears about it. Part timers if they have the impression it’s expensive just stop bothering to look at what prices are. Need to just have a set season ticket price for each stand, none of this phases business. Then make POTG 15% more expensive than that. Cut prices across the board, probably by 30% and see attendences rise 20%. The lost revenue wouldn’t be huge.. and then just reduce the playing budget so that overall losses are £13m a year or whatever Chansiri can lose. Its not like there isn’t excess in the playing budget given we’ve spent £16m on Rhodes fee and wages over 4 years and he doesn’t play. This season the squad seems less wasteful but it’s been bad in previous seasons. Deciding what you’re going to spend and then randomly trying to raise the revenue for it is a backward way of doing things. Most businesses work out what their sales can be at a given price, then use that to set the budget. It's not just the cost of match tickets which I agree are too high. It's things like lack.of parking and safe parking which by all accounts on here is getting worse puts people off. Add to that if you've got a couple of hours drive and the prospect of sitting in traffic it's not an attractive proposition for some. Not a popular thought I know but moving to a new site could be an option to improve things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, asteener1867 said: Reading 2014...30'000...Why was that if not the prices? It was September...It was Reading...they probably brought the usual minibus... Why was it? Decent start to the season and a chance to break into the top 6? Remember, our season derailed that year 3 nights later in a 7-0 mauling in Manchester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 minute ago, LondonOwl313 said: They’re all special games though and there’s much less price elasticity. People want to be there to say they were there when we got back to the PL Normal league games are much more price elastic. Cheap ticket games are a waste of time because people decide that there’s no way they’d pay £40+ to watch a game of football, so they stop bothering and just follow us on TV, radio or online. Cutting prices for a one off game doesn’t work because these people decide at the start of the season they’re not going and have no idea that prices are even being reduced I know loads of people that might go to 5 games a season if prices were normal (i.e. £25ish) but they flat out refuse to pay more. When you compare it to other ways of spending your money it’s not good value And there's my point ,people will pay whatever the price is if we are doing well Footballs a business not a charity Hard to believe but DC doesn't give a flying $hit about any of us ,just our wallets ,like any other business man If people can't be bothered to come at cheap prices, why should he bother reducing them ? Yes the prices are stupidly high but there is no evidence that fans will turn up if they are cheaper DC looks at the money coming in not whose coming in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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