Inspector Lestrade Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 8 hours ago, Salmonbones said: Sorry tonight I can't agree - he was not calm in possession, was rushed easily and made poor passes forward under pressure. A lot of tonight was the fact we did not keep possession and Iorfa was a contributing factor to that. The man needs to have less rushes of blood to the head and be more calm, read the game a little better and stop having to over react because he saw a ball late. However, I am being over critical, we did win, and his mistakes did not cost us tonight. I missed all that. All I saw was strong tackling, read the game well intercepting passes etc, calm under pressure, and whacking it away when needed. Lees as much as I like him will have to bide his time to get back in the team once he is fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteG_1984 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a better tackle, almost made me do a sex wee. Also that block in the same period. What a guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul92vr6 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 8 hours ago, pazowl55 said: Just a shame it will be broken up once Lees is fit. Because I really dont see Monk leaving him out long term. Why ! leave them alone great partnership and to be fair Lees has not been that good over the last two seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetsheri Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 i suspect Lees will be out "injured" for some time yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighworthOwl Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 8 hours ago, Mighty0wls said: Gotta feel for Tom Lees I get what your saying but it might also be good for him. He has serious competition for his place. Hopefully he fights for it and improves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookieisdown Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Bates I think is injured. Or has been until lately at least. I'm with Salmon on this. I like Iorfa lots but didn't think this overall his best game by a long way... Except for that tackle which was indeed world class, quite superb. To me we still just don't look more than a solid mid table side but in central defence we have more capacity than I would guess anyone in this league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash77 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Only he could make that tackle with his pace and legs but maybe a 7 instead of usual 8's despite me being one of the biggest advocates of him playing cb. Lost a couple of headers in the box that could have cost us against their cbs. Saying that lees would likely have also lost out being smaller and borner lost the boro striker in the 4-1 twice and got lucky too, it happens. Cb is currently our strongest position tho, we're easily conceeding less than a goal a game so going forward, being more expansive and getting ff thriving in the front 3 should be the focus imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gypsyowl Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 there was 2 outstanding pieces of defending from him in the 2nd half, the tackle in front of the south stand and then the block as well in the box, not sure which one the OP is referring to but he's been excellent at CB under Monk, Tom Lees is going to have to wait for his opportunity to get back in the team, you can't change Borner/Iorfa partnership unless you have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffix Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Pass backs to Dawson were a worry. A couple only just got there before being intercepted. Otherwise a strong performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 10 hours ago, Salmonbones said: Sorry tonight I can't agree - he was not calm in possession, was rushed easily and made poor passes forward under pressure. A lot of tonight was the fact we did not keep possession and Iorfa was a contributing factor to that. The man needs to have less rushes of blood to the head and be more calm, read the game a little better and stop having to over react because he saw a ball late. However, I am being over critical, we did win, and his mistakes did not cost us tonight. agree to a point.....At times he looks awkward as....but...he does the job...Its hard to complain really. He left a couple of easy passes short, but no harm done...As long as he continues as he is..I can't see Lee getting back in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyCraig Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 What worries me a little if he carries on the premier League will come sniffing. He's got all the tools and I'm amazed by his maturity. £500k was it? Had Wolves pants down. A refreshing change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuttyTeabags Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Sell Lees 7m, Rhodes 2m in Jan. Bates and Thorn are more than capable understudies. Re-sign Joao, and offload Winnall on loan and give FF a new contract if performing. Would go some way to repairing the damage of that ridiculously imprudent and unnecessary Jan window where we spaffed the family silver on a total pile of wnk. PS Iorfa is a legend in the making, and tie him down now to a 5 year deal before Prem rumours start... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Iorfa has played very well since he came in, Borner is a superhero. I'm still trying to work out how two of the opposition players got through the middle of our defence for a free header when Dawson made that save last night. They were a yard and a half behind our defence. As the ball was delivered their player won the first header then 2 of the opposition players burst through the middle and should have scored. Was it a defensive wee wee tail up or a well executed training ground planned freekick. I've not seen a replay and it all happened too quickly for me to work it out so this is a genuine question rather than a desire to point a finger at anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOTIE AND THE SHIT TU Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 hours ago, PeteG_1984 said: I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a better tackle, almost made me do a sex wee. Also that block in the same period. What a guy 2 Just a bloke, who used up all his luck in one go when he met his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 hours ago, prowl said: Iorfa has played very well since he came in, Borner is a superhero. I'm still trying to work out how two of the opposition players got through the middle of our defence for a free header when Dawson made that save last night. They were a yard and a half behind our defence. As the ball was delivered their player won the first header then 2 of the opposition players burst through the middle and should have scored. Was it a defensive wee wee tail up or a well executed training ground planned freekick. I've not seen a replay and it all happened too quickly for me to work it out so this is a genuine question rather than a desire to point a finger at anyone. I've just watched it and when the free kick was taken one of their players is in an offside position on the left of the screen and no one has picked him up. He is moving from left to right behind our defence. Iorfa is in the middle with Fletcher nearby. Iorfa peels off to pick up the loose player but is not well positioned. Fletcher is rooted to the spot. Another player comes past 2 players on the left (can't see who they are, it's low definition ) It's the loose man and the second man who are clear as the header comes over. The loose man looks like it's a training field ploy. Iorfa spots it but can't do much about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc4_sufc0 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 14 hours ago, swfc4_sufc0 said: Only just got away with that tackle. It was his trailing leg that got the ball, not the one he led with. Necessary, but lucky. 7 hours ago, Jaydubz said: So what? Still constitutes part of the block! What a stupid comment! No need to get personal pal. Do you watch/play much football? He didn't mean to contact the ball with his trailing leg, and if he hadn't, it would have been a penalty and a yellow card. Or red, given our track record with refs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydubz Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, swfc4_sufc0 said: No need to get personal pal. Do you watch/play much football? He didn't mean to contact the ball with his trailing leg, and if he hadn't, it would have been a penalty and a yellow card. Or red, given our track record with refs. Never played in my life 'pal'! In fact first game ive ever watched! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Iorfa has been one of the successes of the season. He is improving by the game and has all the qualities to be an excellent centre back. He did extremely well tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc4_sufc0 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jaydubz said: Never played in my life 'pal'! In fact first game ive ever watched! I'm sure that sounded really funny in your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miffed Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 15 hours ago, Mighty0wls said: Gotta feel for Tom Lees I dont. Im sorry but you cant be sentimetal in football. For me, Lees shouldnt just walk back into the side, I think he needs to earn it. And lets be honest, he hasnt had the best of form the last 18 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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