wilfsmith Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Can you ever imagine last night’s ‘goal’ being allowed at Old Trafford with Sir Alex at the helm or at Newcastle under Benitez, at Man City, at Chelsea or even Wolves to name just a few. I WAS AMAZED TO SEE HOW CALM AND COMPOSED Gary Monk was in the after match interview last night. He was given every opportunity to criticise what he saw on the pitch but just ‘straight-batted’ everything and ‘was pleased with the point.’ So it begs the question, are we pleased that our coach takes the moral high ground and refuses to be drawn into criticising officials? I am certain that referees have been intimidated by high profile and vocally critical managers in the past. I’m sure they would think twice before making controversial decisions against clubs managed by certain vocal managers. Monk gets praise from me for the way he handles himself and I know persistently blaming officials (a la Warnock) after the event becomes annoying and does nothing to change the result. However, my point is do some refs now think, ‘Ah it’s only Wednesday and Monk, they won’t kick up too much of a fuss if I make a mistake. I’ll give it?’ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 A shocking decision, for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHERSTATE Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) ? Nothing happens...they just get a fine Man United is totally different animal, everything they do gets documented by the media It just gets swept under the carpet..the villa match the other year was worse and we had that scottish idiot taking the wee wee the world moves on and cares little for Championship clubs Championship refs are just on autopilot nowadays and im not sure they know the law in black and white They were just dog awful at their jobs Edited October 19, 2019 by HIGHERSTATE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worksop Wednesday Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 I was expecting to see him to kick off as thought sky indicated as much just before their 500th ad break before his interview Carlos used to pee me off congratulating the opposition Imagine what Colin would have done ? Especially if FF had done a Flint !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, wilfsmith said: However, my point is do some refs now think, ‘Ah it’s only Wednesday and Monk, they won’t kick up too much of a fuss if I make a mistake. I’ll give it?’ 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, wilfsmith said: Can you ever imagine last night’s ‘goal’ being allowed at Old Trafford with Sir Alex at the helm or at Newcastle under Benitez, at Man City, at Chelsea or even Wolves to name just a few. I WAS AMAZED TO SEE HOW CALM AND COMPOSED Gary Monk was in the after match interview last night. He was given every opportunity to criticise what he saw on the pitch but just ‘straight-batted’ everything and ‘was pleased with the point.’ So it begs the question, are we pleased that our coach takes the moral high ground and refuses to be drawn into criticising officials? I am certain that referees have been intimidated by high profile and vocally critical managers in the past. I’m sure they would think twice before making controversial decisions against clubs managed by certain vocal managers. Monk gets praise from me for the way he handles himself and I know persistently blaming officials (a la Warnock) after the event becomes annoying and does nothing to change the result. However, my point is do some refs now think, ‘Ah it’s only Wednesday and Monk, they won’t kick up too much of a fuss if I make a mistake. I’ll give it?’ No... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marconi Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Glad he didn't rant and rave, that should have been done by eleven of our players immediately after the goal was given. Showed plenty of dignity leaving the Sky pundits to highlight the injustice. Just submit your referees report against Stroud and his merry men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camffiti Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Referee management was a huge part of Alex Ferguson's success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 no matter what would happen Ref's are a protected species form grassroots up they very rarely get challenged on their decisions , and on the rare occasions that they do then the punishment rarely fits the crime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Sewell Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 But Monk was giving the fourth official a right ear bashing most of the first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hangonrose Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 30 minutes ago, wilfsmith said: Can you ever imagine last night’s ‘goal’ being allowed at Old Trafford with Sir Alex at the helm or at Newcastle under Benitez, at Man City, at Chelsea or even Wolves to name just a few. I WAS AMAZED TO SEE HOW CALM AND COMPOSED Gary Monk was in the after match interview last night. He was given every opportunity to criticise what he saw on the pitch but just ‘straight-batted’ everything and ‘was pleased with the point.’ So it begs the question, are we pleased that our coach takes the moral high ground and refuses to be drawn into criticising officials? I am certain that referees have been intimidated by high profile and vocally critical managers in the past. I’m sure they would think twice before making controversial decisions against clubs managed by certain vocal managers. Monk gets praise from me for the way he handles himself and I know persistently blaming officials (a la Warnock) after the event becomes annoying and does nothing to change the result. However, my point is do some refs now think, ‘Ah it’s only Wednesday and Monk, they won’t kick up too much of a fuss if I make a mistake. I’ll give it?’ Sure that he'll be under firm instructions not to get involved. There's enough s*** flying around SWFC, that an argumentative manager could see us playing to empty stadia or worse. Let's hope that we have good lawyers on our case. Agree that it was a shocking decision. If I was Dawson, I would have dropped to the floor in agony to prevent to free kick. As it looked to me, his positioning seemed less than perfect. Still, a point.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 They had a nailed on pen..the ref, was very poor..they did get away with more than we did though. Whatever, we were very poor 2nd half against a a reyt shower of warnocks shyte. The subs monk made was fooookin nuts..warlock must have thought fooookin ell..they are givin us a chance. Murphy don't wanna be here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest everydays_wednesday Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 42 minutes ago, Worksop Wednesday said: I was expecting to see him to kick off as thought sky indicated as much just before their 500th ad break before his interview Carlos used to pee me off congratulating the opposition Imagine what Colin would have done ? Especially if FF had done a Flint !!! FF would have been sent off and got a 6 game ban to be fair .... ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 41 minutes ago, slinger208b said: No... much, much lower than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatter Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 On 19/10/2019 at 16:54, hangonrose said: Sure that he'll be under firm instructions not to get involved. There's enough s*** flying around SWFC, that an argumentative manager could see us playing to empty stadia or worse. Let's hope that we have good lawyers on our case. Agree that it was a shocking decision. If I was Dawson, I would have dropped to the floor in agony to prevent to free kick. As it looked to me, his positioning seemed less than perfect. Still, a point.... Have looked at the replay a few times. Not sure Westwood could have done anything to change things. True, Dawson was not in the centre of the goal having been complaining to the Lino on his left. However, if he had positioned himself ‘correctly’ he would only have had a view of Flint’s backside. The only blame to be apportioned is to the match officials who ignored the part of the offside law about interfering with play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dukeries Owl Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 On 19/10/2019 at 16:28, Worksop Wednesday said: I was expecting to see him to kick off as thought sky indicated as much just before their 500th ad break before his interview Carlos used to pee me off congratulating the opposition Imagine what Colin would have done ? Especially if FF had done a Flint !!! Bazza would have had to be giving FF a piggy back to get in the goalies eye line whatever he was doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_guite Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I would imagine it probably works the other way around to the op, carlos was very critical of the refs late in his tenure and it only seemed to encourage the refs to punish us further. FF could have been run over by a bus in those days and still get a yellow for diving... I like the way Monk handled it and long may it continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Managers are now subject to the same rules as players and can be yellow or red carded, so you'll see less berating of match officials anyway. It's a pointless endeavor anyway, it won't change a decision, only taint an official's view for the next time there is a controversy. Stay classy Gary Monk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poite Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) At the time I hardly even noticed the idiot jumping up and down waving his arms around 3 yards offside... I was too busy looking at the truly awful positioning by Dawson and seeing the ball gently land in that corner of the goal about 30seconds before it actually happened Edited October 21, 2019 by poite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Warnock always maintained he got poor decisions cos Refs hated him....Not the other night Colin eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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