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31 minutes ago, alanharper said:

 

Could be something in that, we've only won 1 of the last 9 games he's reffed us in (at Leeds in the snow) and 7 of those were away from home. But I've no wish to see him ref us again to put it to the test.

 

He also denied us 2 points at Derby last season the last time he reffed us before Friday, ruling out a perfectly good WInnall goal, and he started the "Forestieri is a diver" trend by giving him a second yellow for not actually diving at Preston.

3 years ago at 1-1 with Hull Bannan was about to shoot in a great position in the last minute when Stroud "accidentally" got in his way. Can't remember who was the ref but the last ime we were away at Cardiif exacvtly the same thing happened. 1-0 up, last minute, a Cardiff player dives at the edge of the area and they score the free kick. Deliberate tactic, can't understand fans giving Warnock any praise at all, he has always been a downright cheat.

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18 hours ago, JimmyMaC said:

Strouds a proper homer,hes no balls,hes one of the worst in the championship,you dread him away love him at home,but letting them get away with those antics at the FK should surely see him demoted now,or get yet another 28 day rest FFS!

Unfortunately not. He's due to ref Derby and Wigan on Wednesday night. 

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On 19/10/2019 at 14:04, dorian gray said:

the only 'accountability' is when a world cup comes up, and we haven't a single official chosen to be there, despite the finals now having grown to twice the number of games.

that's the truth of the fa's system, it a ****ing failure, as are the old farts running it.

That's exactly what I've been thinking about the standard of refs in england for some time. It's difficult to prove corruption accusations, but incompetence is clearly demonstrated week in week out, and as you say, the 'accountability' or if you prefer, the proof of the pudding, is that even FIFA (not unknown for their own levels of corruption) think our refs aren't good enough to officiate at the world cup! There was a time when the best refs in the world were usually from Britain, but now we just see rank incompetence protected by an 'omerta' like silence from the authorities. 

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17 minutes ago, alcock dived said:

That's exactly what I've been thinking about the standard of refs in england for some time. It's difficult to prove corruption accusations, but incompetence is clearly demonstrated week in week out, and as you say, the 'accountability' or if you prefer, the proof of the pudding, is that even FIFA (not unknown for their own levels of corruption) think our refs aren't good enough to officiate at the world cup! There was a time when the best refs in the world were usually from Britain, but now we just see rank incompetence protected by an 'omerta' like silence from the authorities. 

Think the reason we had no refs there last year was something to do with Mark Clattenburg being chosen and in the interim him quitting as a referee to go to Saudi Arabia or something. We were unable to select a replacement 

 

Standard is awful though. It’s not just at our level.. with VAR it’s becoming a farce in the Prem

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People can say what they want about VAR

 

But if we’d had it at Cardiff we’d have got 3 points instead of just 1

 

Unless it’d have picked up palmer possibly giving away a penalty

 

second thoughts b0!!0cks to VAR

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3 minutes ago, horny owl said:

People can say what they want about VAR

 

But if we’d had it at Cardiff we’d have got 3 points instead of just 1

 

Unless it’d have picked up palmer possibly giving away a penalty

 

second thoughts b0!!0cks to VAR

The problem with VAR is its only clear for handball and offside, seems annoyingly pointless for everything else.

 

I’m not even sure that we’d have won with it on Friday. Firstly would they have overturned the award of the freekick. Based on what we’ve been seeing with it, probably not.

 

Would they have ruled out the goal for offside. Probably not on the basis that the referee can see it and had deemed it not interfering with play (incorrectly). If they aren’t going to over turn the foul on Origi yesterday then they wouldn’t have overruled the ref for ours as they’d argue that the ref could see it

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5 minutes ago, horny owl said:

People can say what they want about VAR

 

But if we’d had it at Cardiff we’d have got 3 points instead of just 1

 

Unless it’d have picked up palmer possibly giving away a penalty

 

second thoughts b0!!0cks to VAR

and that's what football officials should be all about, swings and roundabouts, but it's not.

if you're one of the 'unfashionables' away from home and 0-1 up, get ready for some right decisions going to the 'favourites' in the latter part of the second half.

look at when we were at manure, and 0-1 up, with only seconds to go, we ended up playing 'next goal winner', it was f***ing cheating, but it was man u and 'ole blue nose', so they ignored it 'cos they knew they'd be in for it if they didn't, and hadn't the boll*x to ref it fairly.

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2 hours ago, gurujuan said:

As Dermot said on ref watch, it should not have stood The thing for me is, it’s not like he missed it, he either doesn’t know the rules, which would be bad enough, or he’s working for some Far Eastern betting syndicate


Did he say the exact reason why it shouldn’t have stood.

I agree it shouldn’t have, just interested in what reason he gave 

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9 minutes ago, oldishowl said:


Did he say the exact reason why it shouldn’t have stood.

I agree it shouldn’t have, just interested in what reason he gave 

No they didn’t go into it in great detail, he just said, it shouldn’t have stood as the player should have been deemed offside, once he was interfering with play.

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2 hours ago, horny owl said:

People can say what they want about VAR

 

But if we’d had it at Cardiff we’d have got 3 points instead of just 1

 

Unless it’d have picked up palmer possibly giving away a penalty

 

second thoughts b0!!0cks to VAR

 

I'd rather have drawn 1-1 due to that penalty being given and the free kick being disallowed for offside, at least we wouldn't have been cheated out of the points. 

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On 18/10/2019 at 21:07, The Regulator said:

It wouldn’t be so bad if they had to do post match interviews and answer for their decisions but they walk around with impunity. And if they are being assessed nothing ever seems to come of their poor performances. Power without accountability.

Nothing comes of it because there's a shortage of refs. Kids either aren't bothering to do the training course or ones that are are leaving before finishing due to threats of and actual physical and verbal abuse from players and parents and local F As doing bugger all to try and stop it.

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On 21/10/2019 at 18:22, Owl 44 said:

Unfortunately not. He's due to ref Derby and Wigan on Wednesday night. 

 

Can't see him down for a game this weekend, he's 4th official at QPR on Monday. Probably been given time off as a reward rather than punishment.

 

It doesn't get any better for us, ref for the Leeds game is... Tim Robinson. 

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Years ago nobody cared who the ref was at Wednesday games

 

Now it’s the first thing you have to find out because there’s every chance it’ll be yet another corrupt, cheat

 

Id love to know what their problem or agenda is with Wednesday 

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