Inspector Lestrade Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Always think FF is one the hardest working players. Always wanting the ball, etc. If I do have a complaint he can be a bit to greedy when there are better options available to him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Last chance saloon for FF. He has got to make an impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Orlando_Trustful said: Last chance saloon for FF. He has got to make an impact. Shouldn't we say that about most of the squad? Only Fletcher, Harris, Bannan and Borner have reached the heights of acceptability this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheriwozgod Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 You could have scripted some of the responses in this thread, and most of them from posters who throw a hissy fit if someone gives Fox or Nuhiu the same treatment, still , all about opinions isn`t it , but i am sure everyone can agree that regardless of all thats gone before a fully fit and motivated FF would be a huge bonus at this stage so lets hope he is ready to make an impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 56 minutes ago, Mycroft said: Shouldn't we say that about most of the squad? Only Fletcher, Harris, Bannan and Borner have reached the heights of acceptability this season. You can most certainly add Palmer to that list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, gurujuan said: You can most certainly add Palmer to that list He's getting there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miffed Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 On 07/10/2019 at 11:03, Craig enock said: We can now all agree that defensively we are a solid unit . 23 hours ago, Miffed said: Can we? 22 hours ago, gurujuan said: Yes I think we can. We have very good options at centre back, and a good right back (playing at left back I dont agree at all. I think its naieve to think that we are solid in defence.... and by defence, Im not just talking about the back four, Im talking about defensively as a team overall. In my opinion we still look frail and have a lot more work to do to be considered solid defensively, both from a back 4 perspective but also from the defensive contributions from midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 4 hours ago, sheriwozgod said: You could have scripted some of the responses in this thread, and most of them from posters who throw a hissy fit if someone gives Fox or Nuhiu the same treatment, still , all about opinions isn`t it , but i am sure everyone can agree that regardless of all thats gone before a fully fit and motivated FF would be a huge bonus at this stage so lets hope he is ready to make an impact. Fully fit, fully motivated and played in a wide role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 23 hours ago, gurujuan said: He is the only player we have who can play between the lines Without him, or someone like him, our attacking options are very basic Yes there are a few reservations about how he might fit into our current set up, but we’d have similar problems with any skilful ball player If we want to be successful, at some point we have to incorporate players who are comfortable on the ball you have to have the ambition to play more than one up at home, you and I disagree on this. if ff play's 'in the hole' and we play two up, who holds the m/f? those mighty tacklers bannan and reach? he can only play in a one up, and for me monk won't be using that as often at home after the Christmas window . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthowl Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 19 minutes ago, Miffed said: I dont agree at all. I think its naieve to think that we are solid in defence.... and by defence, Im not just talking about the back four, Im talking about defensively as a team overall. In my opinion we still look frail and have a lot more work to do to be considered solid defensively, both from a back 4 perspective but also from the defensive contributions from midfield. I agree that we are some way off defensive solidity. Despite a decent goals against stat, we look like we could concede at any time. For different reasons, defensively we mastered both Fulham and Middlesbrough, yet in both games we conceded due to shoddy defending. I didn't see the Hull match; was that the same? Wigan could have gone the same way too. We have some way to go before we are "solid in defence". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 39 minutes ago, Miffed said: I dont agree at all. I think its naieve to think that we are solid in defence.... and by defence, Im not just talking about the back four, Im talking about defensively as a team overall. In my opinion we still look frail and have a lot more work to do to be considered solid defensively, both from a back 4 perspective but also from the defensive contributions from midfield. I disagree. Look at the number if shots our opponents have had. Wigan 5 Hull 8 Boro 9 Fulham 9 Hudders 9 Compare that to the average shots by Championship sides this weekend - 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 24 minutes ago, dorian gray said: you have to have the ambition to play more than one up at home, you and I disagree on this. if ff play's 'in the hole' and we play two up, who holds the m/f? those mighty tacklers bannan and reach? he can only play in a one up, and for me monk won't be using that as often at home after the Christmas window . One up front is OK, but several factors limit the potential of the system for us. First of all, Fletcher is not the type of striker you want acting as a lone striker. Secondly, none of our more adventurous second row, especially the wide players, ease the burden when it comes to goal scoring If the focal point of your attack, isn’t prolific, it’s difficult to employ two out and out wingers. Maybe, things might improve if we play Forestieri as one of the second row, in a 4-2-3-1 system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Well, it's all set up for him. Apart from Fletcher nobody else has staked a claim to a starting spot. He's had a full pre season plenty of rest and hopefully put this behind him mentally. The more options we have, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 minute ago, gurujuan said: One up front is OK, but several factors limit the potential of the system for us. First of all, Fletcher is not the type of striker you want acting as a lone striker. Secondly, none of our more adventurous second row, especially the wide players, ease the burden when it comes to goal scoring If the focal point of your attack, isn’t prolific, it’s difficult to employ two out and out wingers. Maybe, things might improve if we play Forestieri as one of the second row, in a 4-2-3-1 system. fletcher was outstanding leading the sunderland line 'one up', but we need more goals for promotion than sunderland needed to avoid relegation. maybe harris with his speed could be tried as 'second striker'. I agree we shouldn't be using two wingmen. which ff are you expecting to turn up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredmciverslovechild Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 This goal v Norwich......not that one but this. No one else in our squad would have done this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 4 hours ago, gurujuan said: You can most certainly add Palmer to that list And probably Iorfa now aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Am I right in thinking his contract is up in the summer.? Watch him turn on the magic. Oh and we also we have three tv games coming up aswell. We will all be singing " Oh Forestieri " before to long you mark my words. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Him Fletcher and Harris as a front three sounds great on paper. You would have a bit of everything in that - pace, trickery, aerial ability. Fingers crossed he can come back, hit the ground running and play for the rest of the season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, SiJ said: Him Fletcher and Harris as a front three sounds great on paper. You would have a bit of everything in that - pace, trickery, aerial ability. Fingers crossed he can come back, hit the ground running and play for the rest of the season. Certainly that looks the best blend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pussface Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Hope I'm wrong. But the odd inevitable but fleeting moments of brief brilliance aside, I think the best of Foresteri came and went three seasons ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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