SallyCinnamon Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Reliant on Fletcher at the moment. All three other strikers are really not up to it. Atdhe is inconsistent, we should all know that by now. Winnall isn’t cutting it for me, four chances I’ve counted from the Everton and the game tonight where he should be doing better. Really need to be more clinical than that. Rhodes has a serious case of Francis Jeffers disease and I think he’s too far gone to make a recovery. A new striker is needed in January to compete with Fletch. We lost genuine quality in Joao and Hooper, the other strikers aren’t at that level in my view. Hutchinson yellow card could be a huge blessing. That midfield two again is very inconsistent and lose the battle in midfield far too often against sides who get in their faces and make it difficult. There’s just something not right with it, despite Hutch and Bannan individually being very good footballers. Luongo needs to step in and hopefully he can cement his place in the starting 11. Harris looks knackered already, we rely on him a lot and he looked tired tonight and a bit lost for ideas. Murphy looked better when he came on. First poor performance I’ve seen from Kadeem, but the way he’s been working I saw it coming to be fair. Palmer is not a left back. Much rather see Morgan Fox play there. Counter productive him going down the right on his weaker foot. Nullifies are attack because he always cuts to pass inside or lays it back to the centre back. Odubajo gets stick, but at least he gets forward. We need a natural left footer playing at left back. Play to our strengths. Need to to bounce back on Saturday. So typical of Wednesday in recent seasons that performance. I suppose it reflects the fact they’re a mid-table side, but for some reason I thought we might have got something tonight. Always the hope that kills you. 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) Can’t disagree with a single point. Paragraph 2 is the key for me! Edited October 1, 2019 by Pieman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) Could have been sitting pretty in 2nd tonight It was comfortably within our grasp too Edited October 1, 2019 by McRightSide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grez Bez Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Agree with all except Harris. Teams haveBseen he's our danger man and are putting 2 men on him. We need Murphy/ Reach to do well to free him up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1Owl Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) Where was the confidence from the last match. Why didnt we go into it the same way as last match. Just cos Fletcher not playing is that so bad it affects the whole team performance. Edited October 1, 2019 by S1Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 The reality is that we're not going to win game after game, at least not away. Those who're aspiring to top two will be very disappointed, because it's not going to happen. We're one of those sides which could make the play-offs, along with several others. To be fair, that's pretty much what Monachus said when he was appointed. This isn't his team, and he had little time to prepare. He probably does even know his best eleven yet, and his caution at Fulham indicated that he's not really sure where we stand yet. Three points from two games away ain't bad in my book. It's the home games where we've really got to turn it on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Down South Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Good post - only point I would disagree with is re Joao - far too inconsistent to be regarded as quality and would never put in same class as Hooper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, LSOwls said: Agree with all except Harris. Teams haveBseen he's our danger man and are putting 2 men on him. We need Murphy/ Reach to do well to free him up Harris made bad decisions all night, nothing to do with doubling up...it wasn’t needed. Bad day at the office for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Interestingly, Joao is now back warming the bench at Reading. But yes, I agree with most of points made in the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grez Bez Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, McRightSide said: Harris made bad decisions all night, nothing to do with doubling up...it wasn’t needed. Bad day at the office for him. Hard to do anything when you are closed down so quickly. Bad day for him as he got played out of the game. He's our only danger man. Give it to Harris, beat a man, Fletcher header... Predictable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 minute ago, LSOwls said: Hard to do anything when you are closed down so quickly. Bad day for him as he got played out of the game. He's our only danger man. Give it to Harris, beat a man, Fletcher header... Predictable He always gets closed down quickly, he’s usually able to deal with it. Tonight his touch was off and he made bad decisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taximark Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Think we will know where we are when we have played the likes of WBA and Leeds. Just dont see us as promotion material tbh. I really like to see some players shown the door in january. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) Really need to get the 3 points on Saturday against Wigan. Hull and Wigan imo where 2 very winnable games. Few changes to the team I hope on Saturday. Would like to see Luongo, Lee and possibly Murphy start and hope that Fletcher is back. Potentially could have gone 2nd tonight and the players put in a performance like that. flippingannoying. Edited October 1, 2019 by WalthamOwl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 50 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Reliant on Fletcher at the moment. All three other strikers are really not up to it. Atdhe is inconsistent, we should all know that by now. Winnall isn’t cutting it for me, four chances I’ve counted from the Everton and the game tonight where he should be doing better. Really need to be more clinical than that. Rhodes has a serious case of Francis Jeffers disease and I think he’s too far gone to make a recovery. A new striker is needed in January to compete with Fletch. We lost genuine quality in Joao and Hooper, the other strikers aren’t at that level in my view. Hutchinson yellow card could be a huge blessing. That midfield two again is very inconsistent and lose the battle in midfield far too often against sides who get in their faces and make it difficult. There’s just something not right with it, despite Hutch and Bannan individually being very good footballers. Luongo needs to step in and hopefully he can cement his place in the starting 11. Harris looks knackered already, we rely on him a lot and he looked tired tonight and a bit lost for ideas. Murphy looked better when he came on. First poor performance I’ve seen from Kadeem, but the way he’s been working I saw it coming to be fair. Palmer is not a left back. Much rather see Morgan Fox play there. Counter productive him going down the right on his weaker foot. Nullifies are attack because he always cuts to pass inside or lays it back to the centre back. Odubajo gets stick, but at least he gets forward. We need a natural left footer playing at left back. Play to our strengths. Need to to bounce back on Saturday. So typical of Wednesday in recent seasons that performance. I suppose it reflects the fact they’re a mid-table side, but for some reason I thought we might have got something tonight. Always the hope that kills you. Was gonna give you a thumbs up till the Morgan Fox comment. He’s woeful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Palmer has been absolutely fine. Defensively we are fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogerwyldesmullet Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Hooper was class but did a semi Abdi for the last 18 months. The one you didn’t mention (FF) used to be our best attacking player but Lord knows whether he still is .... Bottom line is our current 1st XI is not as good as the 2016 play off team. Until it is, we will continue to come up short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new zealand owl Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 58 minutes ago, TodwickOwl said: Palmer has been absolutely fine. Defensively we are fine. Yeah, this isn't our area of concern- Ultimately you are as good as your strikers (quote from some previous Judas manager). I think we are a good side until we get to where it counts- putting the ball in the net. Getting a mobile striker who can finish at a fairly decent ratio is a priority in January. They are hard to find and i guess that's where we need to be clever in bringing in a prem youngster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 7 hours ago, Steve Down South said: Good post - only point I would disagree with is re Joao - far too inconsistent to be regarded as quality and would never put in same class as Hooper. Joao is in a better class than Winnall or Nuhiu. Hooper and Joao should be replaced ASAP if we want to achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 A typical midweek away performance by us. I would love to know how many Tuesday night away games we have won in the DC era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls-Fan Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Great OP, Winnall has been hugely disappointing since being given the chance to play. Hopefully Monk will find an alternative solution in that position if Fletcher isn’t available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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