owlinexile Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 If Champ manager ever taught me anything, it's that you adapt your formation to the players you have available, not the other way around. All these one up front with two inside forwards formations are super-fashionable at the moment, but there's no point being fashionable if we don't have the players to do it properly. To play like Liverpool or Man City you almost need your strongest players to be your wing-backs as they are expected to do the job of two players. Even the likes of Mendy, Alexander-Arnold and Alonso struggle with balancing their attacking responsibilities with actually occasionally needing to defend from time to time. Liam Palmer has proved a lot of people wrong in the last couple of years but he's never going to be the rampaging wing-back we need. Bruce clearly started bringing the players in to try and play this system - Harris and Murphy fit the bill as quick inside-forwards that can cut inside and get shots in, Moses an attack-minded overlapping wingback. They were probably the best available without spending money, but I'm not convinced by two of them and I'm not sure we are there yet regarding being able to play the fashionable way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woozie Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 In the past ten seasons seventeen teams have been promoted either playing 442 or using it with another formation. This includes variations of 442 e.g. Diamond. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard1867 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 11 hours ago, gurujuan said: Latter day examples will be thin on the ground though Only because 442 isn't fashionable any more in the Premier League, and consequently in the Championship. I think formations are secondary and it's more about the players you have in your squad and what you intend to do with the ball. As we have five strikers I think 442 just makes it easier to get them on the field and on the ball. I think Saturday proves modern football doesn't expect a team will turn up playing 442 and stop your defenders running the game. There will also be a lot of modern CBs who are expecting to deal with pace, which are going to get exposed to an aerial threat, which they've not had to deal with at this level. I don't think 433 plays to the strengths of any of ours strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard1867 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 11 hours ago, gurujuan said: Latter day examples will be thin on the ground though Rhodes and Gestede btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 4-4-2 is simple formation. Im not a fan of all these " modern " systems. 1x keeper 2x full backs 2x centre halves 1x defensive midfielder 1x attacking midfielder 2x wingers 2x strikers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Owl Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 41 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: 4-4-2 is simple formation. Im not a fan of all these " modern " systems. 1x keeper 2x full backs 2x centre halves 1x defensive midfielder 1x attacking midfielder 2x wingers 2x strikers This Get t'by-line! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 20 hours ago, Rev Owl said: This Get t'by-line! Spot on mate . As someone famous once said . " Football is a simple game complicated by idiots" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 On 29/09/2019 at 19:18, bobness said: 100% I agree that all formations have their merits, based on the opposition, a particular game's dynamics, as well as the squad at your disposal. I only created this thread as there was a fair bit of scoffing at the suggestion we should go 4-4-2, because "it doesn't work in the modern game". I found the suggestion baffling, especially as we looked much more cohesive when switching to 4-4-2 against Huddersfield. What's the root of the belief 4-4-2 "doesn't work"? Is it because the football elites are too good for it? If you are putting the question to me. I personally would worry if we tried to go with 2 in centre midfield against some of the more pacey energetic midfields as evidence suggests we struggle against these type of sides. I can only assume it is the type of players at our disposal which creates this concern rather than the actual system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando17 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 On 29/09/2019 at 18:24, Ferkorf said: 4-4-2 is the best formation for any football team. Why teams play with one man up top baffles me. Strike partnerships bring about goals especially in English football. 4-3-3 is good when you have Ronaldo Rooney and Nani up there or Griezmann Suarez and Messi.... Not quite the same with Harris Fletcher and Reach spot on bud,we aint got the quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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